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Pepsi Max

Pepsi Max

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Ok so I joined SLimming World 4 weeks ago & to date I've lost 1/2 lb!! Seriously 1/2 lb!! I'm following the diet! Please tell me if I'm doing something wrong or that Type 1s lose weight slower, I do have at least 18lbs to lose...
 
As a Type 1 diabetic, no diet of any kind will work for you unless you also (slowly!) reduce your insulin usage in line with your reduced food intake, and in line with your reducing weight (once it starts reducing).
 
Hi. The Slimming World diet is not ideally matched to diabetic needs as it tends to focus on fat reduction as much as carbs and carbs are our enemy. As another poster said just change your dietary lifestyle to greatly reduce carbs and have enough veg, protein and fat to make you feel adequately full. Set a daily limit for the carbs of, perhaps, 150gm but use the meter to guide you and try to adjust your insulin down where you can whilst maintaining a good, safe blood sugar level
 
Spiker said:
As a Type 1 diabetic, no diet of any kind will work for you unless you also (slowly!) reduce your insulin usage in line with your reduced food intake, and in line with your reducing weight (once it starts reducing).
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Reduced food intake? Really, Spiker, do you suggest this? Instead of reduced carbs?
 
Pepsi Max said:
Ok so I joined SLimming World 4 weeks ago & to date I've lost 1/2 lb!! Seriously 1/2 lb!! I'm following the diet! Please tell me if I'm doing something wrong or that Type 1s lose weight slower, I do have at least 18lbs to lose...
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Well we have had members who have followed the Slimming World diet and lost weight successfully, so I suppose it does depend on the person as some people will lose weight more quickly than others, however like all diets some work for some people and not for others.

What does the SW Consultant say about your slow weight loss?

My wife did SW a few years back and she lost 3 stone, at the time there was chap with type 2 diabetes and he lost 5 stone, so it does work in some people otherwise it wouldn't be as successful as it is.
 
Totto said:
Reduced food intake? Really, Spiker, do you suggest this? Instead of reduced carbs?
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I'm not personally suggesting that, no, it's just that what all diets have in common is reducing or restricting some aspect of your food. And unless the only nutrient being restricted is fat, this will require a reduced total insulin usage.
 
My thyroid function is fine, my latest HbA1c was 6.3....the SW consultant suggested their other plan called original instead of the popular extra easy. The original puts a limit on carbs. I'm going to try till Halloween & hope to see results because at that stage I'll b doing it 12 weeks! I understand everybody is different with diets & weight loss but is this not ridiculous? I don't drink, I don't smoke & I walk every day anything from 1 to 5 kilometres. I'm trying to nip this now before it's really too late.
 
This is what logic is telling me...if insulin helps you store fat, then a lower dose of insulin would help you lose weight? I'm not suggesting you just go changing your dose by the way as I'm not T1 and not sure what scope you have to change the dose anyway! But if you were eating less carbs, wouldn't you need less insulin? LCHF helps many of us lose weight while also improving our BG, so it seems like a logical place to start, to me anyway.

It might help if we understand what you're eating on a typical day :)
 
Spiker said:
As a Type 1 diabetic, no diet of any kind will work for you unless you also (slowly!) reduce your insulin usage in line with your reduced food intake, and in line with your reducing weight (once it starts reducing).
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Does insulin usage affect your weight?
 
hale710 said:
Does insulin usage affect your weight?
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Insulin stores glucose as fat and stops the body from using its own fat stores. Thats one of the reasons LCHF works so well for weight loss. You minimise carb intake and by doing that you also minimise the need for insulin.
 
Totto said:
Insulin stores glucose as fat and stops the body from using its own fat stores. Thats one of the reasons LCHF works so well for weight loss. You minimise carb intake and by doing that you also minimise the need for insulin.
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Cool makes sense.

I agree LCHF works well for weight loss.... But I couldn't do it myself. Expend enough energy keeping BG in check I couldn't handle denying myself the foods I want!

Plus any diet that denies me most fruit baffles me lol
 
hale710 said:
Cool makes sense.

I agree LCHF works well for weight loss.... But I couldn't do it myself. Expend enough energy keeping BG in check I couldn't handle denying myself the foods I want!

Plus any diet that denies me most fruit baffles me lol
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It doesn't need to deny you the food you like but if what you like involves a lot of fruit and carb then yes you will need to adjust your diet to have smaller portions of carbs or sugar. I still have fruit but i make sure its 10g carbs at a time...that gets me quite a few berries but not much mango. But i'd rather have a little bit than nothing.
 
Loobles said:
It doesn't need to deny you the food you like but if what you like involves a lot of fruit and carb then yes you will need to adjust your diet to have smaller portions of carbs or sugar. I still have fruit but i make sure its 10g carbs at a time...that gets me quite a few berries but not much mango. But i'd rather have a little bit than nothing.
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That's where I trip up, I'd rather skip the berries and have an apple lol

I use cauliflower rice at times, but that's because I enjoy the taste and am not a fan of rice. Ditching or reducing pasta.... Would just not happen lol

Overall though I'm a fairly moderate carber, average 100g-150g per day. Only diet change I made at diagnosis was trying to lower GI of a meal. Ie I now spread cashew nut butter on to apples to reduce the spike etc!
 
Pepsi Max said:
My thyroid function is fine, my latest HbA1c was 6.3....the SW consultant suggested their other plan called original instead of the popular extra easy. The original puts a limit on carbs. I'm going to try till Halloween & hope to see results because at that stage I'll b doing it 12 weeks! I understand everybody is different with diets & weight loss but is this not ridiculous? I don't drink, I don't smoke & I walk every day anything from 1 to 5 kilometres. I'm trying to nip this now before it's really too late.
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Sounds sensible and hopefully come Halloween your weight will have finally started to shift.

My wife (who isn't a diabetic btw) always said joining SW was a great motivator to lose weight as your in a group and the support was there from other people who are in a similar situation, plus the weekly weigh-in was more than enough to make you stick to the diet plan.
 
hale710 said:
Overall though I'm a fairly moderate carber, average 100g-150g per day. Only diet change I made at diagnosis was trying to lower GI of a meal. Ie I now spread cashew nut butter on to apples to reduce the spike etc!
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Your doing all the right things by the looks of things Hale, Gary Scheiner says weight gain is only achieved if your eating more calories than you consume, he says by reducing portion sizes of carbs (not low-carb), avoiding snacks between meals and keeping active active all help to keep weight stable and bg normal.

Although LCHF does lead to weight loss in some people, it's fair to say that we have had our fair share of members on the forum who have followed this type of diet and haven't lost any weight or it has led to weight gain, as said earlier what works for one may not work for another.
 
noblehead said:
Your doing all the right things by the looks of things Hale, Gary Scheiner says weight gain is only achieved if your eating more calories than you consume, he says by reducing portion sizes of carbs (not low-carb), avoiding snacks between meals and keeping active active all help to keep weight stable and bg normal.

Although LCHF does lead to weight loss in some people, it's fair to say that we have had our fair share of members on the forum who have followed this type of diet and haven't lost any weight or it has led to weight gain, as said earlier what works for one may not work for another.
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Agreed!

Just need to watch the snacking, or at least replace the snacks with healthier options!

Or just simply change the bacon and hashbrown I have a breakfast a little too often haha
 
noblehead said:
Gary Scheiner says weight gain is only achieved if your eating more calories than you consume
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There's another condition in addition to this one that is particularly relevant to T1 diabetics which is that you gain weight only with an insulin surplus, and conversely you lose weight (fat, and perhaps protein) when insulin is low.

Some implications:

- you won't lose weight as a T1, unless you reduce insulin
- the healthy way to reduce insulin is to reduce carbs
- cutting insulin without cutting carbs will make a T1 lose weight, but it will make the T1 very ill. This is diabulimia and it's crazy dangerous of course.
 
Spiker said:
There's another condition in addition to this one that is particularly relevant to T1 diabetics which is that you gain weight only with an insulin surplus, and conversely you lose weight (fat, and perhaps protein) when insulin is low.

Some implications:

- you won't lose weight as a T1, unless you reduce insulin
- the healthy way to reduce insulin is to reduce carbs
- cutting insulin without cutting carbs will make a T1 lose weight, but it will make the T1 very ill. This is diabulimia and it's crazy dangerous of course.
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Yes Spiker, that's correct and is basically what GS is saying, makes sense.
 
So if I follow the original plan & reduce carbs & therefore insulin levels, how long will I see results? I'm not talking lbs & lbs, I'm talking at least 2lbs! I also check my bs about 11 times a day so I'll notice quickly how it'll effect them!
 
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