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Lunablu81

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Type of diabetes
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Hi all,

I am new to this board. I have recently been diagnosed Type 2 Diabetic (October 2011) and I am finding the whole thing overwhelming. I was given Metformin twice daily to start with. I have just had my first blood reading done, which came out as 6.5. My doctor wanted to increase the metformin to three times daily, which i was not happy with as my first reading was based on the fact that half the time I wasn't on Metformin. So I am having a further blood test next week. I am going on an educational Diabetes course in March. I have started my weight loss journey, I am still finding the whole food thing a little confusing. The more research I do the more confused I get. It would be nice to hear from some other people and their opinions on the whole food side of things. Thank you :D
 
Hi,

I too was diagnosed in Oct 2011, but this forum has been a great help.

What would you like to know?
 
Immis said:
Hi,

I too was diagnosed in Oct 2011, but this forum has been a great help.

What would you like to know?

I hope this is how you reply.

I am currently following Weight Watchers and have lost 12 pounds in 6 weeks. I feel slighlty concerned with my blood readings. I am even not sure what a normal blood reading should be. My last reading was 6.7 not 6.5! And because of that reading my Doctor wanted to increase my metformin. I wasn't happy so i went for a second opinion and I know diet counts a lot for diabetes and I just feel that i have been treated not very well and haven't got a clue. I have done research and hopefully the course will help me. Just want to know which foods to avoid (if any) thank you. Angelis
 
Hi Angelis and welcome to the forum :) This information written for new members, below, will help you with your question about which foods to avoid, and also the levels to aim for, or in fact lower if you can. Have a good read around the forum then ask any questions you still have. There is usually someone here who can help.

BASIC INFORMATION FOR NEWLY DIAGNOSED DIABETICS

Diabetes is the general term to describe people who have blood that is sweeter than normal. A number of different types of diabetes exist.

A diagnosis of diabetes tends to be a big shock for most of us. It’s far from the end of the world though and on this forum you’ll find well over 30,000 people who are demonstrating this.

On the forum we have found that with the number of new people being diagnosed with diabetes each day, sometimes the NHS is not being able to give all the advice it would perhaps like to deliver - particularly with regards to people with type 2 diabetes.

The role of carbohydrate

Carbohydrates are a factor in diabetes because they ultimately break down into sugar (glucose) within our blood. We then need enough insulin to either convert the blood sugar into energy for our body, or to store the blood sugar as body fat.

If the amount of carbohydrate we take in is more than our body’s own (or injected) insulin can cope with, then our blood sugar will rise.

The bad news

Research indicates that raised blood sugar levels over a period of years can lead to organ damage, commonly referred to as diabetic complications.

The good news

People on the forum here have shown that there is plenty of opportunity to keep blood sugar levels from going too high. It’s a daily task but it’s within our reach and it’s well worth the effort.

Controlling your carbs

The info below is primarily aimed at people with type 2 diabetes, however, it may also be of benefit for other types of diabetes as well.
There are two approaches to controlling your carbs:

  • Reduce your carbohydrate intake
  • Choose ‘better’ carbohydrates
Reduce your carbohydrates
A large number of people on this forum have chosen to reduce the amount of carbohydrates they eat as they have found this to be an effective way of improving (lowering) their blood sugar levels.

The carbohydrates which tend to have the most pronounced effect on blood sugar levels tend to be starchy carbohydrates such as rice, pasta, bread, potatoes and similar root vegetables, flour based products (pastry, cakes, biscuits, battered food etc) and certain fruits.

Choosing better carbohydrates

Another option is to replace ‘white carbohydrates’ (such as white bread, white rice, white flour etc) with whole grain varieties. The idea behind having whole grain varieties is that the carbohydrates get broken down slower than the white varieties –and these are said to have a lower glycaemic index.
http://www.diabetes.co.uk/food/diabetes ... rains.html

The low glycaemic index diet is often favoured by healthcare professionals but some people with diabetes find that low GI does not help their blood sugar enough and may wish to cut out these foods altogether.

Read more on carbohydrates and diabetes

Eating what works for you

Different people respond differently to different types of food. What works for one person may not work so well for another. The best way to see which foods are working for you is to test your blood sugar with a glucose meter.

To be able to see what effect a particular type of food or meal has on your blood sugar is to do a test before the meal and then test after the meal. A test 2 hours after the meal gives a good idea of how your body has reacted to the meal.

The blood sugar ranges recommended by NICE are as follows:

Blood glucose ranges for type 2 diabetes
  • Before meals: 4 to 7 mmol/l
  • 2 hours after meals: under 8.5 mmol/l
Blood glucose ranges for type 1 diabetes (adults)
  • Before meals: 4 to 7 mmol/l
  • 2 hours after meals: under 9 mmol/l
Blood glucose ranges for type 1 diabetes (children)
  • Before meals: 4 to 8 mmol/l
  • 2 hours after meals: under 10 mmol/l
However, those that are able to, may wish to keep blood sugar levels below the NICE after meal targets.

Access to blood glucose test strips
The NICE guidelines suggest that people newly diagnosed with type 2 diabetes should be offered:

  • structured education to every person and/or their carer at and around the time of diagnosis, with annual reinforcement and review
  • self-monitoring of plasma glucose to a person newly diagnosed with type 2 diabetes only as an integral part of his or her self-management education

Therefore both structured education and self-monitoring of blood glucose should be offered to people with type 2 diabetes. Read more on getting access to blood glucose testing supplies.

You may also be interested to read questions to ask at a diabetic clinic

Note: This post has been edited from Sue/Ken's post to include up to date information.
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Please sign our e-petition for free testing for all type 2's; here's the link:
http://www.diabetes.co.uk/petition/

Do get your friends and colleagues to sign as well.
 
Angelis81 said:
Hi all,

I am new to this board. I have recently been diagnosed Type 2 Diabetic (October 2011) and I am finding the whole thing overwhelming. I was given Metformin twice daily to start with. I have just had my first blood reading done, which came out as 6.5. My doctor wanted to increase the metformin to three times daily, which i was not happy with as my first reading was based on the fact that half the time I wasn't on Metformin. So I am having a further blood test next week. I am going on an educational Diabetes course in March. I have started my weight loss journey, I am still finding the whole food thing a little confusing. The more research I do the more confused I get. It would be nice to hear from some other people and their opinions on the whole food side of things. Thank you :D

Hi,
it is an overwhelming thing for the first few weeks after diagnosis. The important thing now is for you to read and learn all you can about type 2. The normal level is about 5mm that we aim for. If you check after your meals the idea is that you should only let yourself spike up to about 6.7mm or below. Always aim to keep it under 7.8mm which is the level many believe that bodily damage starts to happen. The main guideline I work by is to keep my blood glucose at the 5mm level around the clock.

You need some good books. Dr Bernstein's 'Diabetes Solution' and Jenny Ruhl's 'Blood Sugar 101' are excellent. Jenny Ruhl also has a website by the same name, well worth looking at. The main food group that raises our blood sugars is carbohydrate. I suggest you obtain a meter and begin testing at home each day, that is what I did right from the start. In the books you will find good facts, such as the fact that proteins and fats do not raise your blood glucose like carbs do. A lot of us here believe in eating a low carb diet - you need to get a carb counting booklet to help you. You will get to know which foods make you rise and which are no problem. There is an awful lot to learn.

So 6.5mm is not too bad a level actually. Personally I wonder why he has put you on tablets so quickly. Some doctors do. You need to decide for yourself whether you can manage this by changing your diet. I manage mine totally by diet and exercise. Exercise is excellent because it reduces insulin resistance and lowers blood sugar - it really works!

p.s. be aware that the dieticians and even doctors may tell you to eat more carbs while taking meds to lower your blood sugar. Personally I don't believe this is the logical way forward - but you must read and work out what is best for you.
 
Angelis81 said:
Immis said:
Hi,

I too was diagnosed in Oct 2011, but this forum has been a great help.

What would you like to know?

I hope this is how you reply.

I am currently following Weight Watchers and have lost 12 pounds in 6 weeks. I feel slighlty concerned with my blood readings. I am even not sure what a normal blood reading should be. My last reading was 6.7 not 6.5! And because of that reading my Doctor wanted to increase my metformin. I wasn't happy so i went for a second opinion and I know diet counts a lot for diabetes and I just feel that i have been treated not very well and haven't got a clue. I have done research and hopefully the course will help me. Just want to know which foods to avoid (if any) thank you. Angelis

Weight Watchers do not do low carb, they count calories. In my view low carb is the only real way to control blood sugars. So consider perhaps the Atkins Diet which has worked for me and many others or the 'Protein Power' way (book by Drs Michael & Mary Eades). I have seen Weight Watchers foods on the shelves of the supermarket and many are sky high in carbs, it would never work for me! I eat protein and fats, lots of salads and low carb vegetables. These are things to consider for yourself of course. I have not counted a single calorie but have lost over 20 pounds very naturally and steadily while eating to satisfaction. I am still losing about a pound a week. In the past I counted calories and lost precisely nothing! Any I did lose went straight on again. As a diabetic the priority is to reduce carbs.
 
hi angelis81 welcome to the site . daisy 1 will be along shortly with a list of great info regarding diets ect.
i am a newbie myself having been diagnosed just 4 weeks ago . i too am finding things a little confusing on the eating aspects as my pn told me to make sure i had carbs at mealtimes. my diabetes course is also in march so im hoping things become much clearer after those sessions. i have changed my diet and having 3 meals a day and so far ive lost 6.7 kilos so im happy with weight loss side of things just need to get my head round the rest lol .
 
Hi and welcome to the forum.
Since my diagnosis of T2 in July of last year by going on a low carb diet ive lost 35lb since then and am now getting almost normal blood readings 2 hours after eating. Not taking any medication and all the aches and pains i used to suffer from have all gone. Feeling a lot fitter and not tired all the time as i was before diagnosis. Great to be 2 1/2 stone lighter too. All this was achieved from advice received from this forum for which i will be forever gratefull.

Good luck.

Andy
 
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