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tolsn

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Type of diabetes
Type 2
hi i am new i was diagnosed with type 2 d on tues 20th march and putt on metformin i have to take them gradually its 1 in a mornig for a wk then 2 for a wk then upto 3 on the 3rd wk! althoough i have been tested for it throughout my life right from been 6 wks old and both my grandma and grandad had it too its come as a shock and is taking some taking in!!! i feel there is so much info to read and take in but its just not going in (if that makes sence) so was hoping i could get some help and guidence from here x the questions i hvve seem stupid and the stuff i have to take in seems mind boggoling so HELP!!!!

1 question i have is (and been asked a few times since tues) is type 2 where m blood sugger goes to high or too low?? or does it do both???

2 is should i be given a suger level checker in time?? (finger prick on??)

3 when we have a funny turn is becouse glucose levels are to low or too high??

i have read this stuff i am sure i have but i just cant remember and if i did i cant remember what it said!!!

i feel overwelmed confussed ect with it all and my husband doesnt seem to realize the seriousness of it (or if he does he doesnt show it he seems to brush it off when i talk / try to talk to him about stuff)

i have however got a sos necklace and i am looking into getting a tattoo also so i have something on me at all times should anything happen!

anyway enough of me ranting on i hope to get to know some of you all soon laura xxx
 

I am pretty new to all this as well. Someone wise and wonderful will be along soon to help. Here are the answers as far as I know.

Question 1, it is when blood sugars go too high.
Question 2. Yes you should, but most surgery`s don`t give them.
Question 3. I don`t know. I haven`t had any funny turns, at least none relating to diabetes.

I hope that is of some help.
 
hi jeannamum
i am so glad i arnt the only newby round here lol

i was thinking about maybe buying a meater for checking myself but again am unsure!?

:?
 
tolsn said:
hi jeannamum
i am so glad i arnt the only newby round here lol

i was thinking about maybe buying a meater for checking myself but again am unsure!?

:?

When you are trying to get your blood sugars down, you really need to know what food affects you the most. The people here advocate a lower carb diet, or low carb diet. I took the low carb approach, and it has really worked for me. I test about 3/4 times a day right now, sometimes more. It gets less I believe as you learn what works for you.
 
ok so that just baffled me more lol!!!

i didnt have dinner yesterday or today at the same time i had done the rest of this wk and i noticed that my hands started to shack i felt a bit naff and yucky (only way i can describe it lol can tell i have kids lol) so was that maybe becouse my suger levels were too low or high??
 

I don`t really know tolsn. It could be a false hypo. As far as I know type 2`s shouldn`t have them. I could well be wrong. You will have lots of good advice by tomorrow.
 
I'm not the wise and wonderful one - but here's some info. First of all, don't rush off getting tattoos! As a type 2 on diet only, or just on metformin, (the drug you've been given), We don't get serious hypos - that happens to people taking insulin or other serious sugar lowering drugs. We can get low blood sugar the same as any other (non diabetic) person, but that's different to a serious hypo. Here's some general info:
. In general terms you will need to reduce the total number of carbohydrates you eat per day. All carbohydrates turn to sugar when we eat them, and no type 2 diabetic on diet only, or on diet and metformin only, can control their blood sugars (BGs) without controlling their carb intake. Even those on strong medication normally choose to control their carb intake to keep the level of medication they take down. The total number of carbs per day you can eat depends on how advanced your diabetes is. It’s perhaps worth starting at about 50% of normal levels for a non-diabetic then adjusting up or down according to how you get on. That’s 150 grams of carbs per day for a man, 125 for a woman. You can read the total carb content of food under “nutritional info” on the packet or wrapping, or look it up on the internet for loose food. Just google “carb content..”
You also need to stop or reduce the bad carbs; that is the starchy ones that make your BG go up quickly.
So obviously no sugar or glucose! But also no white bread, white rice, pasta, flour products like pastry, cake and batter. You can eat a little basmati rice, wholewheat pasta or the tri-color pasta fusilli ones in small quantities. Boiled new potatos are OK but not old pots mashed, boiled or in their jackets. (Roast is not so bad, the fat slows their absorption and conversion to glucose in the blood) Amongst other veg, parsnips are about the worst for BG, and carrots not great but ok in smaller amounts.
Multi grain bread (not wholemeal) is not SO bad, but lots of us eat Burgen soya and linseed bread from tescos and sainsburys, although all bread should be in limited amounts.
All fruit has carbohydrates, and needs to be included in the amounts of carbs you eat in a day. For most people, bananas are about the worst for pushing our BG up and berries (like strawberries, raspberries etc) are the least bad.
No sweeties!
Exercise is important. I tend to exercise about an hour after eating when I know my BG will be peaking. This helps to bring it down quicker and further. I do ten minutes hard work on an exercise machine, but you could run up and down stairs for ten minutes or go for a brisk walk.
Returning to types of food and quantities of carbs - you can only find out how many you can eat by testing. Most type 2’s are not given access to testing equipment, so you should get your own – although try arguing with your Doc that you want to manage to NICE guideline blood sugar levels, and can’t do that without testing! If you have to buy a meter, they are cheap and most manufacturers will give them away for free. They make their money on the strips you have to use! So go for the meter with the cheapest testing strips. Some people test before and after eating, on waking (fasting test) and before bed. But if you have limited strips because of cost, the key to me is testing 2 hours after eating. If your BG is above, say, 7.8 at that stage, you need to cut down on the carb content the next time you have that meal. Test after various different meals and you soon get to see a pattern of what you can and can’t eat, and in what quantities. You can then reduce your testing. I said “below, say, 7.8” because NICE guidelines are below 8.5 but most of us think that’s a little high. 7.8 is the max. Level at 2 hours after eating that a non-diabetic normally gets to so is perhaps a better target. Some then set progressively lower targets.
Do ask lots of questions; there is normally an answer on here. There aren't any stupid questions! The more you get to learn about your diabetes, the better it will be.
 
Hi grazer thank you for replying I think i get all that lol! It's so hard to take everything in I don't know how you all do it!

I have absaloutly no idea about carbs or stuff like that so guess I need to brush up on that subject!
I am gonna fine the bread a prob as I don't like brown :? And pasta is gonna be hard again I like my spaghetti Bol :?
Sweets like everyone else that's gonna be my toughly/my down fall I love my choc/sweets especially sports mix :?

Oh dear I have a real feeling this is gonna be a hard one for me :?

Ok as for meter how/where do I get 1from (especially the free ones as Hubble is out of work at min as worked for focus and so money's tight)
what make does everyone suggest should I have to buy 1?
 
Hi Laura and welcome to the forum I hope you are not feeling overloaded with information but here is some advice we give to new members and I am sure you will find it helpful. Take it easy, don't read too much all at once, and all will start to make sense soon. Meanwhile there are so many members here who will be able to help you when you have a question.

 
Hi Tolsn

Do try to follow the advice others have already given you here. You can still eat chocolate but go for the 85% Dark version e.g. Green & Blacks as it's very low carb and it's on special at a well-known supermarket currently! The low-GI Burgen soya and linseed bread isn't too 'brown' but you do have to get used to the seeds. One of the main things is to keep quantities down. You will find as you reduce your refined carb intake your hunger pangs will fade which all helps to keep the blood sugar down. The Metformin will also help reduce your appetite. Good luck.
 

Hi again.

Have you got an appointment to see the Diabetic specialist nurse? Mine actually gave me a monitor, and I have had some strips on prescription. I know I am very rare, and very lucky, but it can`t hurt to ask. If you get no joy, there is a monitor on ebay called Codefree

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/CODEFREE-BLOO ... 7915d858ce

People are buying this as the test strips are so cheap. If you do go for one remember to tick the diabetic box.
 
well i have an appointment on tues to see practice nurse would she be classed as a diaetic specialist???

there is so much to take in but i think i now have the jist of it! its the carbohydrates i eat i have to watch!
gonna have a prob with choc as dont like dark lol!! i havent a clue how meny carbs i eat a day lol

so if i get a monitor eather from dr or buy 1 i will beable to check it myself and keep a check to make sure all is ok!
also will beable to see what foods send my sugger level rocketing!!!

so this might be a daft question but do type 2's get hypos? or just feel **** when we have too much sugger in our systems??


as for the tattoos i was getting my boys names on right wrist and my daughters name and 'grandad' with a halo above the 'G' anyway and just though why not get a tattoo fr the diabetes whilest at it! (my grandad had type 2 also and was on metformin i cant say he seemed to watch his carbs but then i dont know! :? i thought i would be ok when i got told and that i would know what to do after my grandad having it too (and my grandma but she died when i was young so dont remember her much) but now i have actually been told i have it i feel scared and overwelmed by all the info i have to take in :?

you know the eye check we have to have do do we hve to make an appointment with our own optitions or dos the dr sort that out too i.e do we have to goto hospital for it?
 
It was my practice nurse that gave me the monitor, she doubles as a diabetic advisor.

As for diet. There are two separate forums on here that will give you advice on reducing carbs. This may well be against what the nurse tells you on Tuesday. I think they arrange the eye test. Mine said she would sort that out when I go back in three months.

There is a recent thread on hypo`s on here as well. I think it says type 2s are as likely to have hypo`s as none diabetics.
 
yeah i think that the nurse i am seeing doubles as a diabetic advisor xxx
thaks for that jeannemum xxx
so when i get the shakes does ayone know what it could be??? i do find awhlie after something to eat i am fine :?
 
Hi tolsn, it wouldn't suprise me if it was the start of a hypo. I had a couple before actually being diabetic, one was serious enough that the first aider nearly had to call an ambulance. I was so weak and confussed i could hardly eat or drink, really scary. Until you get a moniter, as soon as you get the shakes. eat.
 
hi mistee1 thanks for that that was what i was thinking that on these occasions they have been the start of a hypo! bloody scary actually especially now i know for sure i am diabetic! i had these before been diagnosed and i offen wondered if it was the case of low sugger level!

its really confusing though as some say type 2 dont have hypos some say they do :? :crazy:

i am gonna see what the nurse says on tues before i buy a monitor and then go from there!!


A BIG THANK YOU TO EVERYONE FOR THERE KIND WORDS AND HELPING ME THROUGH THIS VERY :? :crazy: TIME XXX
 
tolsn said:
so this might be a daft question but do type 2's get hypos? or just feel **** when we have too much sugger in our systems??

Hi tolsn and welcome to the forum.

On the hypo thing.

First thing, feeling **** or wozzy or sick or even faint is not a hypo. It's what you described it as - feeling **** or wozzy or sick or faint! You are right though that in a newly diagnosed person then you could feel c**p because your sugars are too high and you may feel bad when they start to fall back to normal. All normal stuff I'm afraid. People term the feelings you MAY get as "false hypos". They can certainly be unpleasant but to be blunt not as unpleasant as going blind or losing a limb or any of the other really nasty complications that DO happen if people run their blood sugars high for too long.

Diabetes does not cause hypos only injecting insulin or powerful diabetic drugs can cause a dangerous life threatening hypo. Metformin is not one of those powerful drugs. Its probably the safest diabetic drug you can take and works primarily by stopping your blood absorbing glucose. As you can't hypo on Metformin its the reason that you don't need to inform the DVLA that you are diabetic if you are a driver.

Real hypos are a dangerous condition brought on by a very rapid fall in sugar levels and normally only occur in insulin injecting diabetics. It you take drugs that stimulate insulin production (Metformin doesn't) and say take those drugs on an empty stomach then again you might be able to hypo.

Apart from that you have an identical chance of having a real dangerous hypo as a non diabetic. Before you were diagnosed there would have been many times in your life when for whatever reason your blood sugars went low. At that point your body has a self correcting mechanism which switches on to raise your blood sugars back to normal levels. Being diagnosed as diabetic doesn't mean that somehow that mechanism has got broken it still works so trust your body to deal with it just as you have done unknowingly for all your life.

Take care and keep asking questions!
 
Thers been a lot of threads on this. Theres a difference between low blood sugar and a dangerous hypo. Anyone can get low blood sugar. A type 2 diabetic on diet only, or metformin, can get low blood sugar the same as a non diabetic can. But dangerous hypos come when people use insulin or other strong sugar lowering drugs (metformin doesn't count as one of them) so don't worry about Hypos. My nurse gave me a big lecture on Hypos even though I was on diet only, and I didn't discover the truth until I researched it and then spoke to a consultant endocrinologist who specialised in diabetes. If you start eating every time you think you might be a bit low you'll do more harm to your BGs than good. If you're used to running on high BGs, which you are, you'll likely feel a bit odd or shaky as they start to come down more towards normal. Last thing you want to do is eat and put them up again! If you genuinely have low BGs, as a non diabetic can, then enjoy it or eat something if you need to, but don't start popping glucotabs as some have done.
 
Grazer said:
I was writing as you posted xyzzy - fortunately we agree!

Great minds and all that Grazer :lol:
 
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