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Hi, is this rise OK?

Michael1000

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Location
Downpatrick
Type of diabetes
Prediabetes
Treatment type
Diet only
Starting November last year (2015) mmol was 38, in June on retest 42 and then last week 48. Why the rise?

I suppose what I would like to know is whether I am prediabetic or diabetic with a run of results 38 (Nov 15) 42 (June 16) 48 (September 16) or whether the results are wobbly and the 48 could be smaller? And why is the rise so fast over just 9 months? The blood tests reflecting the previous three months each. Thanks for your help.
 
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Hi @Michael1000, welcome! Did you not get any guidance from your Nurse/Doctor regarding these figures? The rise is that of sugars in your blood. You need to take good care of yourself, while 48 isn't that high it is in the diabetic range I will tag @daisy1 who will post you some really excellent advice. In the meantime speak to your surgery and have a good look around these forums, you will find much useful info and a really helpful and supportive bunch
 
Hi @Michael1000, welcome! Did you not get any guidance from your Nurse/Doctor regarding these figures? The rise is that of sugars in your blood. You need to take good care of yourself, while 48 isn't that high it is in the diabetic range I will tag @daisy1 who will post you some really excellent advice. In the meantime speak to your surgery and have a good look around these forums, you will find much useful info and a really helpful and supportive bunch
Thanks for the help
 
No guidance yet from the nurse/doctor, I picked the result up myself on Monday at reception and made an appointment because I know 48 is at the tp end of prediabetes from this forum. What I wondered is whether a rise in 9 months from 38 to 48 is steep for type2, if it is that.
 
Hi and welcome!

Under 42 is non-diabetic. 42 to 47 is pre-diabetic. 48 and above is diabetic.

With a level like that it won't be hard to get it back down to the 30's, but you will need to have a good look at your diet to see what is causing it, and really tweak what you are eating to avoid the foods that cause blood sugar levels to rise. It isn't just sweet stuff, it is any major carbohydrate.

Do have a good read round and ask questions.
 
Hi and welcome!

Under 42 is non-diabetic. 42 to 47 is pre-diabetic. 48 and above is diabetic.

With a level like that it won't be hard to get it back down to the 30's, but you will need to have a good look at your diet to see what is causing it, and really tweak what you are eating to avoid the foods that cause blood sugar levels to rise. It isn't just sweet stuff, it is any major carbohydrate.

Do have a good read round and ask questions.
Thanks Bluetit

Thanks

I suppose what I would like to know is whether I am prediabetic or diabetic with a run of results 38 (Nov 15) 42 (June 16) 48 (September 16) or whether the results are wobbly and the 48 could be smaller? And why is the rise so fast over just 9 months? The blood tests reflecting the previous three months each. Thanks for your help.
 
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@Michael1000

Hello Michael and welcome to the forum :) To add to the advice given to you by various members, here is the information we give to new members and I hope you will find it useful. Ask more questions and someone will be able to help.


BASIC INFORMATION FOR NEW MEMBERS

Diabetes is the general term to describe people who have blood that is sweeter than normal. A number of different types of diabetes exist.

A diagnosis of diabetes tends to be a big shock for most of us. It’s far from the end of the world though and on this forum you'll find well over 210,000 people who are demonstrating this.

On the forum we have found that with the number of new people being diagnosed with diabetes each day, sometimes the NHS is not being able to give all the advice it would perhaps like to deliver - particularly with regards to people with type 2 diabetes.

The role of carbohydrate

Carbohydrates are a factor in diabetes because they ultimately break down into sugar (glucose) within our blood. We then need enough insulin to either convert the blood sugar into energy for our body, or to store the blood sugar as body fat.

If the amount of carbohydrate we take in is more than our body’s own (or injected) insulin can cope with, then our blood sugar will rise.

The bad news

Research indicates that raised blood sugar levels over a period of years can lead to organ damage, commonly referred to as diabetic complications.

The good news

People on the forum here have shown that there is plenty of opportunity to keep blood sugar levels from going too high. It’s a daily task but it’s within our reach and it’s well worth the effort.

Controlling your carbs

The info below is primarily aimed at people with type 2 diabetes, however, it may also be of benefit for other types of diabetes as well.

There are two approaches to controlling your carbs:

  • Reduce your carbohydrate intake
  • Choose ‘better’ carbohydrates
Reduce your carbohydrates

A large number of people on this forum have chosen to reduce the amount of carbohydrates they eat as they have found this to be an effective way of improving (lowering) their blood sugar levels.

The carbohydrates which tend to have the most pronounced effect on blood sugar levels tend to be starchy carbohydrates such as rice, pasta, bread, potatoes and similar root vegetables, flour based products (pastry, cakes, biscuits, battered food etc) and certain fruits.

Choosing better carbohydrates

The low glycaemic index diet is often favoured by healthcare professionals but some people with diabetes find that low GI does not help their blood sugar enough and may wish to cut out these foods altogether.

Read more on carbohydrates and diabetes.

Over 145,000 people have taken part in the Low Carb Program - a free 10 week structured education course that is helping people lose weight and reduce medication dependency by explaining the science behind carbs, insulin and GI.

Eating what works for you

Different people respond differently to different types of food. What works for one person may not work so well for another. The best way to see which foods are working for you is to test your blood sugar with a glucose meter.

To be able to see what effect a particular type of food or meal has on your blood sugar is to do a test before the meal and then test after the meal. A test 2 hours after the meal gives a good idea of how your body has reacted to the meal.

The blood sugar ranges recommended by NICE are as follows:

Blood glucose ranges for type 2 diabetes
  • Before meals: 4 to 7 mmol/l
  • 2 hours after meals: under 8.5 mmol/l
Blood glucose ranges for type 1 diabetes (adults)
  • Before meals: 4 to 7 mmol/l
  • 2 hours after meals: under 9 mmol/l
Blood glucose ranges for type 1 diabetes (children)
  • Before meals: 4 to 8 mmol/l
  • 2 hours after meals: under 10 mmol/l
However, those that are able to, may wish to keep blood sugar levels below the NICE after meal targets.

Access to blood glucose test strips

The NICE guidelines suggest that people newly diagnosed with type 2 diabetes should be offered:

  • structured education to every person and/or their carer at and around the time of diagnosis, with annual reinforcement and review
  • self-monitoring of plasma glucose to a person newly diagnosed with type 2 diabetes only as an integral part of his or her self-management education

Therefore both structured education and self-monitoring of blood glucose should be offered to people with type 2 diabetes. Read more on getting access to blood glucose testing supplies.

You may also be interested to read questions to ask at a diabetic clinic.

Note: This post has been edited from Sue/Ken's post to include up to date information.
 
Thanks Bluetit

Thanks

I suppose what I would like to know is whether I am prediabetic or diabetic with a run of results 38 (Nov 15) 42 (June 16) 48 (September 16) or whether the results are wobbly and the 48 could be smaller? And why is the rise so fast over just 9 months? The blood tests reflecting the previous three months each. Thanks for your help.
Hi Michael
From those results, I wonder if you have increased regarding Insulin Resistance, hence the rising levels of glucose in your blood and so now being just within the diabetic range as opposed to previously being pre-diabetic.

How is your weight? Has it maybe increased over the past 9 months or perhaps you are a bit overweight anyway, which is very often the case, but not always, when developing Type 2 diabetes

The advice Daisy has posted explains how carbohydrates affect your blood glucose levels and, because of this, many of us on this forum, reduce carbs from our diet in order to reduce the blood glucose levels, which is all to the good. Also, fats are increased which help in several ways but particularly with feeling full for longer without the starchy/sugary foods and can help cholestrol levels too.

I would suggest, as would most on here, getting yourself a meter and test strips and check immediately before a meal and then 1 hr and 2 hrs later to see what effect that meal has had on your blood glucose level. Everyone is very different and what one person isn't able to tolerate well re BGs, another may well tolerate the same food well.

As you are seemingly in the lower diabetic figures, I would think you could stand a very good chance of controlling your diabetes by diet and, probably, metformin.

I wish you the best of luck and look forward to hearing how you progress. :)
 
The medical community currently only have a gluco-centric view of T2D. Hence they use HbA1c as a clinical diagnostic tool to decide on when to initiate medication.

What is less apparent and that is not captured in the HbA1c is the highly elevated insulin level that precedes T2D diagnosis. A rising HbA1c typically indicates increasing functional loss of beta cells. There may be other conditions, eg steroid use, illness etc..

Consider reducing carbs and eating only during the day...

Google about Dr Joseph Kraft, Dr Jason Fung, Diet Doctor...they will help you get a better picture...
 
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