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Type 2 hi, struggling what to eat at evening meal, non-carbs

saw123 said:
hi, mel dcp.
Im using lactose free milk or some times soya milk, but find to can upset my stomach, if have more than 1 item of it a day, so staying with lactose free
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Soya is unfortunately known for this side effect - many people lack the necessary enzyme to digest it (myself being one of them).
 
I eat pretty normal food in the evening, as I also have my family to feed. So meat, fish, cheese etc for my protein with salad or veg of various types. I just ditch the ‘big’ carbs - potatoes, rice and other grains, bread etc and never eat sugar.
Actually I eat like this at ALL meals!! And no snacks as you really don’t need them...
 
saw123 said:
hi, mel dcp.
Im using lactose free milk or some times soya milk, but find to can upset my stomach, if have more than 1 item of it a day, so staying with lactose free
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I'd advise against copious use of soya milk and other soy products as they can stimulate a female hormone response, and not in a good way if too much, and even block absorption of essential minerals like calcium and magnesium and zinc, leaving a person anxious and low in resilience and immunity. I use goatsmilk and am trying plant alternatives other than soy, mostly. Ratatouille makes a good sauce for me, and only 5% carbs in a can. Butter can add interest too - I use goats butter if so. Good luck.
 
Hi there

I adapt recipes off the 8 week blood sugar diet website. I don't stick to the ridiculous 800 cals a day - but I adapt the recipes to feed my entire family and give the kids a bit of brown rice/pasta or sweet potato with it.

Last week we had

https://thebloodsugardiet.com/recipes/lemony-garlicky-chicken-and-courgetti-with-green-beans/ - delicious and filling

https://thebloodsugardiet.com/recipes/zucchini-noodle-pesto-salad/ - had some chicken with it too

https://thebloodsugardiet.com/recipes/amazing-roast-broccoli-chicken-caesar-ish-salad/ - this was amazing but roasting brocolli stunk my house out

https://thebloodsugardiet.com/recipes/cauliflower-pizza/

https://thebloodsugardiet.com/recipes/moussaka-2/ - my favourite dish, but I make the sauce runny by adding oil and less egg otherwise its bulky.

And a sunday roast with just 1 roast potato and no yorkshires

I also go on the http://twochubbycubs.com/ cheeky free slimming world recipes website and make some amazing curries, steak and feta wraps, home made burgers in lettuce, chilli with cauli rice - theres load of low carb recipes in the if you sift through them.

Quick meals when we are busy are bacon and eggs!
 
LouWilk059 said:
Difficult to eat no carbs, unless you want to limit yourself to meat. I get my carbs from vegetables, but refrain from eating the higher carb vegetables, like corn, peas, root vegetables. I agree with ixi1429, meat and vegetables.
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I find cooked carrots are bad, so eat a small amount of raw carrots occasionally.
 
I have a sweet potato instead of a white one. Seems silly as it is sweet, but has more roughage & doest increase blood glucose as much.
 
Tonight we had Pork steak with cauliflower and cheese mash. very few carbs in that but was quite tasty.
 
Tonight we had sirloin steak with garlicy mushrooms cooked in butter.
 
LouWilk059 said:
Difficult to eat no carbs, unless you want to limit yourself to meat. I get my carbs from vegetables, but refrain from eating the higher carb vegetables, like corn, peas, root vegetables. I agree with ixi1429, meat and vegetables.
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makes sense...have a look at "the mango-man". He is D1 and eats 600 grams per day of the same (mainly raw though)
 
I'm definitely going to try the chicken caeser. Are you in the UK? If so where do you buy you coconut/ almond flour? I've only found a small bag for £4 in tesco
 
deb1960 said:
I'm definitely going to try the chicken caeser. Are you in the UK? If so where do you buy you coconut/ almond flour? I've only found a small bag for £4 in tesco
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I use ground almonds instead of almond flour- considerably cheaper and makes no difference to the outcome. 3 x 150g bags for £3 in Asda.
 
@saw123

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Fry minced beef in the frying pan, with a small portion of chopped onion, chopped courgettes, chopped celery..little tomato puree, garlic puree, some chilli flakes, add a tiny amount of boiled water just enough to cover the mince, add a stock cube.. cover with lid, cook for 20 mins, then take lid off and carry on cooking until water evaporates.. Into a separate bowl, crack two eggs to make an omelette and pour it over the mince, let it cook for 5 mins on low heat, then put under the grill to finish cooking.. small tray of mince is enough if just for one person
 

That sounds absolutely brilliant, I'd reckon leaving out the celery, but cheese on top of the eggs lol.
 
My main meal in the evening usually consists of fresh Chicken, Turkey or Pork - so much you can do to spice it up with Cajun spice, Piri Piri etc (not too much though as I haven't checked but Im sure theres carbs in those spices). Add a little Coleslaw and a few garlic mushrooms, maybe some melted cheese to bulk it out if Im hungry and theres loads to eat.

Since Im trying to stay away from processed meats not least because of the nitrates/nitrites contained within, but sausages are fine as is mince, but I need to stay away from the bacon, chorizo, ham, salami etc which is a shame.

Also I find a 3 egg omlette with cheese, mushroom and onion, maybe a few cubes of chorizo really fills me up.
 

I'd go for a yorkie,
Lidl cheapies, about 6g of carbs each, and tastier than a tatty for Sunday lunch.
Bag in the freezer lol, and you got me thinking.
(home tonight)

(Mind you I stuck to the 'ridiculous' 800 calories, so to be fair, I have a few of both now lol.)
 
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I love cauliflower rice it’s filling. Goes so well with meat, fish dishes. Easy to make just blend raw cover put in microwave for 3 mins plus depending on amount.
 

I tried that tonight, it's worth a shot, but it was all a bit too mushy when it was cooked.
Needs a bit more crunch of the topping for me.
Good though even so.
 
jcbman said:
I tried that tonight, it's worth a shot, but it was all a bit too mushy when it was cooked.
Needs a bit more crunch of the topping for me.
Good though even so.
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Oh did you let the liquid evaporate? You can also once you have served up sprinkle grated cheese on top shove under the grill for a crunch as the cheese goes crispy.
 
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