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Hi Folk, Lifestyle changes today....

It's a bit like Star Wars quote -

the "Force"

is strong in my family,
my Grandfather has it,
my Father has it,
my Uncle has it,
and now today

I was diagnosed with Type 2 Diabetes.

My HbA1c test was 102.

and today I've been prescribed
Metformin, 1 tablet a day for a week, and then 2 tablets a day.

I must now start to look at my diet and exercise.
 
Hi and welcome aboard,

The best way to suss out a suitable diet for yourself is to get yourself a blood glucose meter and start testing before you eat and again 2 hours after first bite. You will see instantly what that meal has done to your levels and give you the chance to tweak some of the contents. They are essential tools, and if used properly, and if you learn from it, you will soon see a big difference.

Have a look at diet doctor for ideas on which foods to enjoy, and which to avoid.
https://www.dietdoctor.com/low-carb/foods#foodlist
https://www.dietdoctor.com/low-carb/foods#foodtoavoid
https://www.dietdoctor.com/low-carb/60-seconds
 

My GP has booked my on Educational Course, Retinal examination, I'm going to Diabetic Clinic this afternoon to discuss diets etc

I asked the GP about whether I should monitor my Blood Sugar levels (I already have equipment! just need to purchase new strips or sensor!) - I've also filled a form for Prescription Charge Exemption for Tables (

Metformin)...

but my GP stated we'll continue tablets for 4 weeks, and go back for more blood tests but when asked about monitoring my own Blood Sugar levels, stated they were not accurate and a waste of time...

This has confused me at present, especially reading NICE guidelines...

What is the experience of other current Newly Diagnosed Type 2 ?

Is it of help, of should I just follow the advice of GP, take the tablets for 1 month, follow diet plans etc

But I think you've answered my question, use a Meter!
 
Hello and welcome to the forum. Well done on choosing to be pro active and addressing this condition head on.
Grab a coffee, there's a fair bit to get your head around at first.

Have a wander around the forum and ask as many questions as you like.
 
My GP has booked my on Educational Course, Retinal examination, I'm going to Diabetic Clinic this afternoon to discuss diets etc

I asked the GP about whether I should monitor my Blood Sugar levels (I already have equipment! just need to purchase new strips or sensor!) - I've also filled a form for Prescription Charge Exemption for Tables (

Metformin)...

but my GP stated we'll continue tablets for 4 weeks, and go back for more blood tests but when asked about monitoring my own Blood Sugar levels, stated they were not accurate and a waste of time...

This has confused me at present, especially reading NICE guidelines...

What is the experience of other current Newly Diagnosed Type 2 ?

Is it of help, of should I just follow the advice of GP, take the tablets for 1 month, follow diet plans etc

But I think you've answered my question, use a Meter!

Definitely ignore the doctor as regards testing. The NHS cannot afford to prescribe meters and strips to type 2s not on insulin or similar drugs. There are a variety of excuses from "you won't understand the results" to "you will hurt your fingers" and everything in between. It is essential if you are to control this condition. Why wait 3 or 6 months between HbA1c tests to see if your chosen new lifestyle is working, when you can test yourself at any time and do something about it.

It is unusual to have the next HbA1c after only a month. The norm is 3 months, then moving to 6 months, and then to annual, depending on how good or bad the control is and whether the medication (if any) is stable. So, just take the tablets, change the diet, buy a meter, and go for the next lot of tests and see what happens.
 
If you yourself don't know what the foods you eat do to your blood glucose levels, how can you possibly change your habits and get better? As others have advocated, please use a blood glucose monitor to self test yourself. They of course are not as accurate as a lab test, but we are talking about a device that has been built to ISO standards to be reasonably accurate for the general public to use and interpret. Go to the link https://www.diabetes.co.uk/diabetes_care/blood_glucose_monitor_guide.html or just google "blood glucose monitor accuracy" for whatever country you live in and you'll be inundated with information.

Self monitoring is the best single piece of advice for the Type 2 Diabetes (T2D) newly diagnosed, it puts you in the "driver's seat" of managing your T2D health.

Sat May 04 added "the" preceding "foods"
 
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They’re good enough for type 1’s to medicate with insulin which has life threatening consequences if gotten wrong enough! So I’m pretty sure it’s accurate enough for type 2 to gauge what’s a good meal and what’s not.

Virtually all type 2 not on strong medication get an excuse not to test given to us. Please ignore it. Sadly for most that means self funding. In time you probably won’t need as many as you will in the early days. You’ll learn what works for you and what doesn’t.

Nhs advice is pretty variable as well with sadly a lot still advocation “eat well” plate for type 2 and telling you you need starchy carbs at every meal. It’s plain wrong and damaging. But it is very slowly changing. Diabetes.co.uk have a low carb program that the nhs now endorses. NICE is supporting dr Unwins low carb work, and he has also done education packages in low carb for drs. So if you get told it’s “dangerous “ or other such nonsense smile sweetly and ignore them.

Can I suggest you take a good look at low carb high fat methods of eating (keto is just a version of this). It helps many of us lose significant amounts of weight, if desired, keep our numbers down and for some even eliminate medications and achieve remission and reduce or improve complications. Try clicking these links for more detailed explanations that are well worth readings


https://www.diabetes.co.uk/forum/blog/jokalsbeek.401801/ for info including low carb made simple


And https://www.diabetes.co.uk/forum/category/success-stories-and-testimonials.43/ to show it really works and for motivation


and https://www.diabetes.co.uk/forum/threads/what-have-you-eaten-today.75781/ for food ideas


also https://www.dietdoctor.com/ for more food ideas and general info of carb content of foods. Lots of other websites for recipes out there too. Just use the term low carb or keto with whatever you fancy.


IMPORTANT FOR ANYONE ON MEDS CONSIDERING LOWERING CARBS: if you lower your carbs then any glucose lowering meds may need to be adjusted accordingly to make sure you aren’t taking more than your new diet requires. It can cause a hypo if you have more gliclazide or insulin etc (this is not relevant for metformin on its own) than your new carb intake requires. Keep a close eye on your numbers and ideally do this with your dr. Please don’t be put off by an ill informed out dated rubbishing of low carb diets or being told you should eat carbs to match meds, it should be the other way around.
 
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Hello and welcome to the Forum :) Here is the Basic Information we give to new members and I hope you will find it both interesting and helpful.


BASIC INFORMATION FOR NEW MEMBERS

Diabetes is the general term to describe people who have blood that is sweeter than normal. A number of different types of diabetes exist.

A diagnosis of diabetes tends to be a big shock for most of us. It’s far from the end of the world though and on this forum you'll find well over 600,000 people who are demonstrating this.

On the forum we have found that with the number of new people being diagnosed with diabetes each day, sometimes the NHS is not being able to give all the advice it would perhaps like to deliver - particularly with regards to people with type 2 diabetes.

The role of carbohydrate

Carbohydrates are a factor in diabetes because they ultimately break down into sugar (glucose) within our blood. We then need enough insulin to either convert the blood sugar into energy for our body, or to store the blood sugar as body fat.

If the amount of carbohydrate we take in is more than our body’s own (or injected) insulin can cope with, then our blood sugar will rise.

The bad news

Research indicates that raised blood sugar levels over a period of years can lead to organ damage, commonly referred to as diabetic complications.

The good news

People on the forum here have shown that there is plenty of opportunity to keep blood sugar levels from going too high. It’s a daily task but it’s within our reach and it’s well worth the effort.

Controlling your carbs

The info below is primarily aimed at people with type 2 diabetes, however, it may also be of benefit for other types of diabetes as well.

There are two approaches to controlling your carbs:

  • Reduce your carbohydrate intake
  • Choose ‘better’ carbohydrates
Reduce your carbohydrates

A large number of people on this forum have chosen to reduce the amount of carbohydrates they eat as they have found this to be an effective way of improving (lowering) their blood sugar levels.

The carbohydrates which tend to have the most pronounced effect on blood sugar levels tend to be starchy carbohydrates such as rice, pasta, bread, potatoes and similar root vegetables, flour based products (pastry, cakes, biscuits, battered food etc) and certain fruits.

Choosing better carbohydrates

The low glycaemic index diet is often favoured by healthcare professionals but some people with diabetes find that low GI does not help their blood sugar enough and may wish to cut out these foods altogether.

Read more on carbohydrates and diabetes.

Over 145,000 people have taken part in the Low Carb Program - a 10 week structured education course that is helping people lose weight and reduce medication dependency by explaining the science behind carbs, insulin and GI.

Eating what works for you

Different people respond differently to different types of food. What works for one person may not work so well for another. The best way to see which foods are working for you is to test your blood sugar with a glucose meter.

To be able to see what effect a particular type of food or meal has on your blood sugar is to do a test before the meal and then test after the meal. A test 2 hours after the meal gives a good idea of how your body has reacted to the meal.

The blood sugar ranges recommended by NICE are as follows:

Blood glucose ranges for type 2 diabetes
  • Before meals: 4 to 7 mmol/l
  • 2 hours after meals: under 8.5 mmol/l
Blood glucose ranges for type 1 diabetes (adults)
  • Before meals: 4 to 7 mmol/l
  • 2 hours after meals: under 9 mmol/l
Blood glucose ranges for type 1 diabetes (children)
  • Before meals: 4 to 8 mmol/l
  • 2 hours after meals: under 10 mmol/l
However, those that are able to, may wish to keep blood sugar levels below the NICE after meal targets.

Access to blood glucose test strips

The NICE guidelines suggest that people newly diagnosed with type 2 diabetes should be offered:

  • structured education to every person and/or their carer at and around the time of diagnosis, with annual reinforcement and review
  • self-monitoring of plasma glucose to a person newly diagnosed with type 2 diabetes only as an integral part of his or her self-management education

Therefore both structured education and self-monitoring of blood glucose should be offered to people with type 2 diabetes. Read more on getting access to blood glucose testing supplies.

You may also be interested to read questions to ask at a diabetic clinic.

Note: This post has been edited from Sue/Ken's post to include up to date information.
 
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