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Jellytot2326

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Type of diabetes
Type 2
After having a reasonable sugar level these past few months I have now been put onto statins as my colesterol is now raised. I don't know what I am doing wrong
 
First question is do you care? Then.. should you care?
No idea how old you are but your profile says female.. so older females with higher cholesterol levels live longer or at least that's what my reading informs me.
You may want to do a bit of research before taking tablets that give quite few people nasty side effects and may not be doing anything good for you anyway.
 
Jellytot2326 said:
Well I have been trying no to. Some thinks have had a higher fat content but the sugars are low. But I suppose overall my fat content has increased slightly
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A lot of people on the forum spend all day on the Internet looking for answers that suit their eating habits and lifestyle choices. Things like eating hundreds and hundreds of grams of saturated fat per day is good for you, etc. No really, I'm not joking...

If I went to see my GP and asked him whether eating more than the recommended maximum intake of saturated fat per day was a good idea - he'd likely tell me that my cholesterol would rise and I'd eventually die from some form of cardiovascular disease, stroke or something equally as horrendous. I'd listen to him, because he's a doctor.

If you have a concern about high cholesterol and would like to lower it, then knocking back on saturated fat and increasing the amount of exercise you do, would be two good places to start:)
 
GrantGam said:
A lot of people on the forum spend all day on the Internet looking for answers that suit their eating habits and lifestyle choices. Things like eating hundreds and hundreds of grams of saturated fat per day is good for you, etc. No really, I'm not joking...

If I went to see my GP and asked him whether eating more than the recommended maximum intake of saturated fat per day was a good idea - he'd likely tell me that my cholesterol would rise and I'd eventually die from some form of cardiovascular disease, stroke or something equally as horrendous. I'd listen to him, because he's a doctor.

If you have a concern about high cholesterol and would like to lower it, then knocking back on saturated fat and increasing the amount of exercise you do, would be two good places to start:)
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but is it true what GP claims... it seems elderly women live longer when they have a somewhat raised cholesterol..
I think that the cholesterol hysteria is a wrong approach unless one has an inherited very raised cholesterol and that more people in one's family have died very early from that phenomenon...

Maybe the body produces the amount of cholesterol that the body needs to repair its cell, all cell-wall contain cholesterol well they are actually built from cholesterol.. I personally think that if one has very raised cholesterol levels it is a sign that the body needs a lot of repair and therefore produces more cholesterol...but that is a private theory of mine.

by the way, if one is still worried of high levels of cholesterol; I know from personal experience that it can be possible to lower cholesterol by going low calories for a while and also lower fats... and doing a lot of exercise on a daily basis. I went from around 7 to a level of 4.5 in 3 months by doing exactly that... and my GP was really angry with me because I wouldn´t take statins at all... she thought my high level was inherited high cholesterol , and she even found a bad excuse to measure my daughters levels when she came to be examined for allergy and an extremely low blood pressure of 90 / 40 which has nothing to do with cholesterol levels at all... her cholesterol levels were around 3.0 so I had a party laughing of this tricky way to try to prove inherited cholesterol in my family....
 
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GrantGam said:
A lot of people on the forum spend all day on the Internet looking for answers that suit their eating habits and lifestyle choices. Things like eating hundreds and hundreds of grams of saturated fat per day is good for you, etc. No really, I'm not joking...

If I went to see my GP and asked him whether eating more than the recommended maximum intake of saturated fat per day was a good idea - he'd likely tell me that my cholesterol would rise and I'd eventually die from some form of cardiovascular disease, stroke or something equally as horrendous. I'd listen to him, because he's a doctor.

If you have a concern about high cholesterol and would like to lower it, then knocking back on saturated fat and increasing the amount of exercise you do, would be two good places to start:)
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Freema said:
but is it true what GP claims... it seems elderly women live longer when they have a somewhat raised cholesterol..
I think that the cholesterol hysteria is a wrong approach unless one has an inherited very raised cholesterol and that more people in one's family have died very early from that phenomenon...

Maybe the body produces the amount of cholesterol that the body needs to repair its cell, all cell-wall contain cholesterol well they are actually built from cholesterol.. I personally think that if one has very raised cholesterol levels it is a sign that the body needs a lot of repair and therefore produces more cholesterol...but that is a private theory of mine.

by the way, if one is still worried of high levels of cholesterol; I know from personal experience that it can be possible to lower cholesterol by going low calories for a while and also lower fats... and doing a lot of exercise on a daily basis. I went from around 7 to a level of 4.5 in 3 months by doing exactly that... and my GP was really angry with me because I wouldn´t take statins at all... she thought my high level was inherited high cholesterol , and she even found a bad excuse to measure my daughters levels when she came to be examined for allergy and an extremely low blood pressure of 90 / 40 which has nothing to do with cholesterol levels at all... her cholesterol levels were around 3.0 so I had a party laughing of this tricky way to try to prove inherited cholesterol in my family....
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GrantGam said:
A lot of people on the forum spend all day on the Internet looking for answers that suit their eating habits and lifestyle choices. Things like eating hundreds and hundreds of grams of saturated fat per day is good for you, etc. No really, I'm not joking...

If I went to see my GP and asked him whether eating more than the recommended maximum intake of saturated fat per day was a good idea - he'd likely tell me that my cholesterol would rise and I'd eventually die from some form of cardiovascular disease, stroke or something equally as horrendous. I'd listen to him, because he's a doctor.

If you have a concern about high cholesterol and would like to lower it, then knocking back on saturated fat and increasing the amount of exercise you do, would be two good places to start:)
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thank you
 
Freema said:
but is it true what GP claims... it seems elderly women live longer when they have a somewhat raised cholesterol..
I think that the cholesterol hysteria is a wrong approach unless one has an inherited very raised cholesterol and that more people in one's family have died very early from that phenomenon...

Maybe the body produces the amount of cholesterol that the body needs to repair its cell, all cell-wall contain cholesterol well they are actually built from cholesterol.. I personally think that if one has very raised cholesterol levels it is a sign that the body needs a lot of repair and therefore produces more cholesterol...but that is a private theory of mine.

by the way, if one is still worried of high levels of cholesterol; I know from personal experience that it can be possible to lower cholesterol by going low calories for a while and also lower fats... and doing a lot of exercise on a daily basis. I went from around 7 to a level of 4.5 in 3 months by doing exactly that... and my GP was really angry with me because I wouldn´t take statins at all... she thought my high level was inherited high cholesterol , and she even found a bad excuse to measure my daughters levels when she came to be examined for allergy and an extremely low blood pressure of 90 / 40 which has nothing to do with cholesterol levels at all... her cholesterol levels were around 3.0 so I had a party laughing of this tricky way to try to prove inherited cholesterol in my family....
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If you think you know better than the doctors then go for it @Freema. It's does amuse me how an Internet connection suddenly makes experts out of us.

The doctor may well be wrong, but it's daft to risk health over some ropey "studies" and YouTube videos, just my opinion.

Remember that all these new wave trendy claims are based on "healthy" individuals. How many of these women who were living longer with high cholesterol had diabetes? T2 diabetes tends to go hand in hand with being overweight (not to say T1's are exempt) so adding high cholesterol to the plethora of risks associated with being overweight is just something else to worry about and another nail in the coffin in some respects.

Keeping diabetes at bay is about minimising risk, not adding more risk elements in. As I see high cholesterol as another risk factor, I'd like to wipe it out by whatever means. If that means less fat and more exercise, then it's a no brainer.
 
GrantGam said:
If you think you know better than the doctors then go for it @Freema. It's does amuse me how an Internet connection suddenly makes experts out of us.

The doctor may well be wrong, but it's daft to risk health over some ropey "studies" and YouTube videos, just my opinion.

Remember that all these new wave trendy claims are based on "healthy" individuals. How many of these women who were living longer with high cholesterol had diabetes? T2 diabetes tends to go hand in hand with being overweight (not to say T1's are exempt) so adding high cholesterol to the plethora of risks associated with being overweight is just something else to worry about and another nail in the coffin in some respects.
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unfortunately, a lot of the further education of GP´s after they have left universities are paid for by medicine companies and their main goal is obviously to sell more medication and to promote certain medication for the specific illnesses that they teach the medical educations around.
when we someday have a side running scientifically based research and education in what the individual can do themselves with non medicated approaches then I clap my hands for your rather arrogant comment ... as the stupid layman you seem to see me as... actually a reduction of almost 3 from 7 in 3 months is more than statins usually can cause... and it is a fact that I did that without medication and also while keeping on eating eggs even more eggs than ever before in my life...
 
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Freema said:
unfortunately, a lot of further education of GP´s are paid for by medicine companies and their main goal i obviously to sell more medication and to promote md
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And there we have it, the old "big pharma" argument when a valid point has been put forward.

Fair enough @Freema, fair enough. We'll leave it at that. We've both made our points which is the main thing.

Have a nice weekend:)
 
GrantGam said:
And there we have it, the old "big pharma" argument when a valid point has been put forward.

Fair enough @Freema, fair enough. We'll leave it at that. We've both made our points which is the main thing.

Have a nice weekend:)
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my comment wasn´t finished .. hope you´ll read my whole comment now sorry
 
GrantGam said:
It's does amuse me how an Internet connection suddenly makes experts out of us.
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Yeah, I don't fall for that. I read, very carefully, what specialist and expert doctors write and say. Doctors such as Kendrick, Fung, Halberg, Unwin, McCormack, just to name a few off the top of my head.
Sally
 
I think it rather arrogant for someone to assume that we all gain knowledge solely from the internet.
As that assumption is erroneous (that is in error)
 
JohnEGreen said:
I think it rather arrogant for someone to assume that we all gain knowledge solely from the internet.
As that assumption is erroneous (that is in error)
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It's a safe bet that almost all the information "we" regurgitate and share is sourced online. Even if you're pulling it from books the oldskool way, I can almost guarantee that the same publication will be available online in digital format. It's all about computers, and the Internet as a means of transporting the info.

There's no escaping it, it's the Internet of things:)

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