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knackered

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Hi, my first post after a long time lurking, on and off.
I was diagnosed with diabetes some years back and was advised to make certain lifestyle and diet changes to control this. My focus on what I should be doing has wandered off course over the last couple of years due to family illneses and a major bereavement. Of late I have been feeling generally in poor health and today i dug out my test kit and took three readings two hours after eating lunch. I took these readings during a drink of tea with one sugar in it over several minutes. first was 17.5, the second a couple of minutes later was 18.9 and the third, after another five minutes was 19.9.

My question is simply, are these readings high? and if so how much higher than desirable.

Thanks

Steve.
 
Are you type 2?

The the blood glucose levels recommended by the NHS are shown on this page.

http://www.diabetes.co.uk/diabetes_care/blood-sugar-level-ranges.html

And i am afraid that yes, your levels are too high.
They go a long way to explain how you are feeling at the moment, and if they stay at those levels for long, you seriously increase your risk of long term diabetic complications.

I will tag @daisy1 because she has a great guide describing the dietary basics.

Don't worry. You have come to the right place. We can help you get control of this.

Welcome to the forum! :D
 
Thank you for the quick response, looks like i must now start to concentrate more on this. I have to be honest, i have neglected my diagnosis over the last two/three years.

Where to start? looks like I have at least found a repositry of good advice and experience.

Thank you

Steve.
 
If type 2 then the readings are high, Don, t know about whether it's high for type are you on any diabetic med?
 
I'm sorry to break the bad news to you, but if your levels are at those kind of numbers all the time, you are very rapidly going to develop complications.

Your numbers should be above 4 and below 10. Preferably tighter than that, but achiving tight levels of controls is difficult.

What type are you? Since you've got a meter, you should start writing down your readings before and after food, so that you can figure out what foods your levels can tolerate.
 
Hi and welcome. I'm afraid a good start will be to stop the sugar in the hot drink and have it without or with a sweetener as I do. Testing should normally be 2 hours after a meal. Let us know a bit more about the meds you are on and your diet. When was the last time you saw the GP/DN for an annual diabetes check-up and blood test?
 
@knackered

Hello Steve and welcome to the forum. Here is the information we give to new members and I hope this will help you to make better food choices so that you can get your levels down. Cut the sugar out and reduce the carbs. Ask as many questions as you like and someone will help.


BASIC INFORMATION FOR NEW MEMBERS

Diabetes is the general term to describe people who have blood that is sweeter than normal. A number of http://www.diabetes.co.uk/diabetes-types.html]different types of diabetes[/url] exist.

A diagnosis of diabetes tends to be a big shock for most of us. It’s far from the end of the world though and on this forum you’ll find over 150,000 people who are demonstrating this.

On the forum we have found that with the number of new people being diagnosed with diabetes each day, sometimes the NHS is not being able to give all the advice it would perhaps like to deliver - particularly with regards to people with type 2 diabetes.

The role of carbohydrate

Carbohydrates are a factor in diabetes because they ultimately break down into sugar (glucose) within our blood. We then need enough insulin to either convert the blood sugar into energy for our body, or to store the blood sugar as body fat.

If the amount of carbohydrate we take in is more than our body’s own (or injected) insulin can cope with, then our blood sugar will rise.

The bad news

Research indicates that raised blood sugar levels over a period of years can lead to organ damage, commonly referred to as http://www.diabetes.co.uk/diabetes-complications/diabetes-complications.html]diabetic complications[/url].

The good news

People on the forum here have shown that there is plenty of opportunity to keep blood sugar levels from going too high. It’s a daily task but it’s within our reach and it’s well worth the effort.

Controlling your carbs

The info below is primarily aimed at people with type 2 diabetes, however, it may also be of benefit for other types of diabetes as well.
There are two approaches to controlling your carbs:

  • Reduce your carbohydrate intake
  • Choose ‘better’ carbohydrates

Reduce your carbohydrates

A large number of people on this forum have chosen to reduce the amount of carbohydrates they eat as they have found this to be an effective way of improving (lowering) their blood sugar levels.

The carbohydrates which tend to have the most pronounced effect on blood sugar levels tend to be starchy carbohydrates such as rice, pasta, bread, potatoes and similar root vegetables, flour based products (pastry, cakes, biscuits, battered food etc) and certain fruits.

Choosing better carbohydrates

Another option is to replace ‘white carbohydrates’ (such as white bread, white rice, white flour etc) with whole grain varieties. The idea behind having whole grain varieties is that the carbohydrates get broken down slower than the white varieties –and these are said to have a lower glycaemic index.
http://www.diabetes.co.uk/food/diabetes-and-whole-grains.html

The low glycaemic index diet is often favoured by healthcare professionals but some people with diabetes find that low GI does not help their blood sugar enough and may wish to cut out these foods altogether.

Read more on carbohydrates and diabetes

LOW CARB PROGRAM:
http://www.diabetes.co.uk/low carb program


Eating what works for you

Different people respond differently to different types of food. What works for one person may not work so well for another. The best way to see which foods are working for you is to test your blood sugar with a glucose meter.

To be able to see what effect a particular type of food or meal has on your blood sugar is to do a test before the meal and then test after the meal. A test 2 hours after the meal gives a good idea of how your body has reacted to the meal.

The blood sugar ranges recommended by NICE are as follows:

Blood glucose ranges for type 2 diabetes
  • Before meals: 4 to 7 mmol/l
  • 2 hours after meals: under 8.5 mmol/l
Blood glucose ranges for type 1 diabetes (adults)
  • Before meals: 4 to 7 mmol/l
  • 2 hours after meals: under 9 mmol/l
Blood glucose ranges for type 1 diabetes (children)
  • Before meals: 4 to 8 mmol/l
  • 2 hours after meals: under 10 mmol/l
However, those that are able to, may wish to keep blood sugar levels below the NICE after meal targets.

Access to blood glucose test strips

The NICE guidelines suggest that people newly diagnosed with type 2 diabetes should be offered:

  • structured education to every person and/or their carer at and around the time of diagnosis, with annual reinforcement and review
  • self-monitoring of plasma glucose to a person newly diagnosed with type 2 diabetes only as an integral part of his or her self-management education

Therefore both structured education and self-monitoring of blood glucose should be offered to people with type 2 diabetes. Read more on getting access to bloodglucose testing supplies.

You may also be interested to read http://www.diabetes.co.uk/diabetes-forum/viewtopic.php?f=20&t=17091]questions to ask at a diabetic clinic[/url]

Note: This post has been edited from Sue/Ken's post to include up to date information.
 
Hi again, thank you for all your replies, most helpfull. I have an appointment with the diabetes practice nurse at my GP this evening and hopefully get some better understanding of where I am from that.

With regards meds,I was originaly diagnosed with type 2 so not on any diabetic medication, however I did stop taking all my other meds three months ago and have been through quite a bad time of it with particular regards the cold turkey experienced with stopping the antidepressant Cipralex @40mg. The symptoms of doing this suddenly are well documented but well worth the return to a normal mental state of alertness as opposed to sleeping fourteen hours a day on the drug. I think the mental fog of this drug most certainly contributed to my lack of DB monitoring and care and the side effects of withdrawel coming off it have also confused my sense of well being up to today.

So, I am now hopefully clear of all drug complications and interactions and in a raw state with a clean slate to work on. I no longer trust my GP with regard prescribing tablets and I will be very reluctant to take anything new, the plan being to employ diet and lifestyle changes. I am 63 years old, overweight, drink too much (self medicating), get little exercise (can't be bothered and fed up) and no longer work. I have a good normal diet but not a diet aimed at managing diabetes. So, I shall see what the nurse has to say and go from there but I will check out everything I am told thoroughly via this site etc before blindly doing what my GP or nurse says.

Had it not been for a conversation I had with someone with regards my first bad night sweat experience the other day (unbeleivably intense) I would probably not have thought to dig out my test kit. They told me that such a dramatic amount of sweating was the first sign of, and related to a 'hypo' in the person they cared for with type 1 diabetes. I had assumed that the reason I was feeling so wierd and ill was because of the ongoing side effects of coming off those bloody antidepressants...

I'll see what the nurse has to say.

Again, thanks for you responses.

Steve.
 
Well done for getting that appt!

Sorry they told you off. Sometimes they forget that you, the patient, are a grown up too.
 
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