Listlad
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I guess you and me attack it, so to speak, from differing directions.
I guess you and me attack it, so to speak, from differing directions.Sure thing. We're all surrounded by carbohydrate. None of us live in a zero-carb bubble. My point was that I don't need to exercise any self-restraint because it no longer interests me. None of it even resembles food anymore. This wasn't the case when I was attempting to moderate. I'm not gloating or anything. Just lucky I guess, but there you have it
That is my Christmas Dinner right there!Last year I had Christmas diner on two days consecutively - we have two offspring - I made Yorkshire puddings using bread flour, cream diluted with water instead of milk, lots of eggs, beef dripping in the pans - ate roast carrot and parsnip plus assorted steamed low carb veges, Yorkshire pudding, lots of turkey with ordinary gravy, and then more Yorkshire pudding, and both days my BG was 5.6mm/l two hours later.
When I weighed myself a week later I was slightly heavier, but another week and that had gone.
Normal days are under 40 gm of carbs - but just once in a while seems absolutely fine.
People often say they wouldn't go back to a high carb diet even if they appeared to be "cured" but shouldn't they be able to have this "reasonable" level that wouldn't have resulted in diabetes in the first place.
I'm working on it but my husband is a hard sell. He thinks while they are growing they can eat them. Carbs are just convenient really so it's only if I can't manage to prepare something better that I might fall back on them (which is more often than I like, although the only bread they get is my husband's sourdough rye). I talk about what different foods do to our blood sugar and my 5yo even said to me the other day "Mummy, you shouldn't eat that potato." But she loves porridge herself and begs for it. I usually give them eggs for breakfast now though. It'll be an adjustment that will take time and probably tantrums...
I agree. Going down to very low carb levels per day can be an over-correction for many.There are various ideas of what constitutes a low carb diet, 20g, 50g, 130g? Similarly there would be a huge variation in what might be considered a high carb diet. If you could go back in time to some years before you were prediabetic what would be a reasonable level of carbs to eat? People often say they wouldn't go back to a high carb diet even if they appeared to be "cured" but shouldn't they be able to have this "reasonable" level that wouldn't have resulted in diabetes in the first place.
And they are entitled to do that if they choose.I think it's less about what people 'should' be able to do, and more about what they want to be able to do. Not everyone necessarily follows a low-carbohydrate lifestyle solely for glycemic stability. Some folk also prefer it.
How kind of you...And they are entitled to do that if they choose.
Why thankyou. One act of kindness deserves another.How kind of you...
That wasn't really what I meant. I was suggesting that there must be a safe level of carbs to eat that wouldn't have resulted in Type 2, assuming diet was a cause. This is not what the OP was asking so I will start another thread when I have time.I think it's less about what people 'should' be able to do, and more about what they want to be able to do. Not everyone necessarily follows a low-carbohydrate lifestyle solely for glycemic stability. Some folk also prefer it.
That wasn't really what I meant. I was suggesting that there must be a safe level of carbs to eat that wouldn't have resulted in Type 2, assuming diet was a cause. This is not what the OP was asking so I will start another thread when I have time.
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I was thinking to try coconut flour instead of polenta. I know the polenta is giving me big spikes. My kids love all the carbs and it's hard having to make certain things for them and not join them in eating it but I guess that's everyone's journey here. Self discipline and control. Redefining one's relationship with food. Addressing one's addictions. It's like having to break up with the love of your life but still see them everyday, with their other lovers...
So while you were eating 85g of carbs per day, were you able to keep your levels under 7.8? Is that the aim, or should I be aiming more for 6s?
Out of interest how do you know it’s over correction for them?I agree. Going down to very low carb levels per day can be an over-correction for many.
Sledgehammers and walnuts spring to mind.
It would have been over correction for me. And for others that have succeeded in reversing their condition on the higher band of low carb intake. It obviously isn’t always necessary to go to the extreme end of the low carb spectrum.Out of interest how do you know it’s over correction for them?
Even though my starting point wasn’t that high and I wasn’t obese (just overweight) every time I let my carbs creep up so do the blood results!
Totally agree not everyone needs to go ultra low but to say because you don’t need to that others are overdoing it isn’t accurateIt would have been over correction for me. And for others that have succeeded in reversing their condition on the higher band of low carb intake. It obviously isn’t always necessary to go to the extreme end of the low carb spectrum.
I don’t let my carb level intake creep up. I hold it within a certain low band that isn’t extremely low.
I said an over correction for many.Totally agree not everyone needs to go ultra low but to say because you don’t need to that others are overdoing it isn’t accurate
It would have been over correction for me. And for others that have succeeded in reversing their condition on the higher band of low carb intake. It obviously isn’t always necessary to go to the extreme end of the low carb spectrum.
I don’t let my carb level intake creep up. I hold it within a certain low band that isn’t extremely low.
I agree, this is often a source of confusion.Hi Listlad Could you please tell me what levels you like to hold to?
What some people call low is normal level to others... What is normal? What is Low?
I think the definitions of 'High' must be those that raise our BG levels over 3 after a couple of hours. That said those numbers change daily, hence I might be worried some days and don't give it a thought others.
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