How long before I can forget about Diabetes?

[Hotpepper20000]

That's excellent. Don't take this the wrong way, but T2 is only considered reversed/cured if you're off all diabetes meds and have normal blood glucose levels (i.e. below "prediabetic" levels). Is there a reason you're still on the metformin? A while ago I ran out of metformin and went to see a doctor to get a new prescription. He looked at my A1c results and said I should try going without the metformin. I did and there was no difference in my levels, so am now still not taking it.

That is maybe true, but metformin does have other uses. For me it greatly reduced symptoms of PCOS. I will keep taking them even though my blood work as come in 5.9 or under for the last year.

 

[douglas99]

That is maybe true, but metformin does have other uses. For me it greatly reduced symptoms of PCOS. I will keep taking them even though my blood work as come in 5.9 or under for the last year.

It isn't even vaguely true.
If 500mg of metformin made that much difference, there would be no T2 diabetics left in the world.
I elected to be on the same dose solely for the other benefits that seem to be published about it, with no side effects for me, and I intend to stay on the same for the foreseeable future.

Sometimes there is too much of a rush to try to be 'med free'.

 

[Hotpepper20000]

It isn't even vaguely true.
If 500mg of metformin made that much difference, there would be no T2 diabetics left in the world.
I elected to be on the same dose solely for the other benefits that seem to be published about it, with no side effects for me, and I intend to stay on the same for the foreseeable future.

Sometimes there is too much of a rush to try to be 'med free'.

I never said that Metformin was the reason my BG was in normal range.
I eat Low carb moderate fat and believe that is what has given me good results.
I had many symptoms of PCOS, and since taking Metformin the symptoms have lessened.
I was on Metformin before changing my eating and it did little to lower my BG.

 

[douglas99]

I never said that Metformin was the reason my BG was in normal range.
I eat Low carb moderate fat and believe that is what has given me good results.
I had many symptoms of PCOS, and since taking Metformin the symptoms have lessened.
I was on Metformin before changing my eating and it did little to lower my BG.

Yes, I was agreeing with you.
I reversed my diabetes with the Newcastle Diet.
I doubt Metformin makes any difference to my BG levels either.

 

[NoCrbs4Me]

I never said that Metformin was the reason my BG was in normal range.
I eat Low carb moderate fat and believe that is what has given me good results.
I had many symptoms of PCOS, and since taking Metformin the symptoms have lessened.
I was on Metformin before changing my eating and it did little to lower my BG.

I don't disagree. I was just pointing out that usually the definition for type 2 reversal includes not being on any diabetes meds.

 

[Hotpepper20000]

Yes, I was agreeing with you.
I reversed my diabetes with the Newcastle Diet.
I doubt Metformin makes any difference to my BG levels either.

Sometimes things don't come through as intended via text. Sorry.
I do think it brought my FBL down by a point or so but it's hard to know if it just was that or diet change.

 

[Hotpepper20000]

I don't disagree. I was just pointing out that usually the definition for type 2 reversal includes not being on any diabetes meds.

True. Guess I'll never be reversed but for me it not important what I am defined as.
As long as my numbers are good and I'm feeling well makes no difference to me.

 

[douglas99]

I can't say I've ever seen a definition.
But I'm good with my own criteria as well.

 

[Jamesuk9]

Sorry, but if you're taking Diabetes meds in any shape or form, you are in no position to claim anything other than controlled...

To claim otherwise is nothing short of deluded and misleading.

 

[douglas99]

Sorry, but if you're taking Diabetes meds in any shape or form, you are in no position to claim anything other than controlled...

To claim otherwise is nothing short of deluded and misleading.

No, to claim 500mg of metformin is a magic bullet would be, I'm afraid.
Let's be very clear, for any newbie reading this, metformin makes a very minimal difference, it's not a free pass.
Don't let anyone convince you it is.

 

[Hotpepper20000]

not sure why there is a need to be able to claim "reversed" or "cured"
This is a personal journey for everyone.
It's not a competition on who did it better

 

[Jamesuk9]

No, to claim 500mg of metformin is a magic bullet would be, I'm afraid.
Let's be very clear, for any newbie reading this, metformin makes a very minimal difference, it's not a free pass.
Don't let anyone convince you it is.

I haven't made that claim. Or any other claims. It is however a Diabetes med, regardless of its effectiveness, so I just find it absurd to make a claim of cured, reversed or any other descriptor other than controlled whilst taking it.

 

[douglas99]

I haven't made that claim. Or any other claims. It is however a Diabetes med, regardless of its effectiveness, so I just find it absurd to make a claim of cured, reversed or any other descriptor other than controlled whilst taking it.

Maybe you need to read up on the benefits of metformin, with regard to its usefulness for non diabetic conditions?
At times it's necessary to step back, and realise there is more to life than diabetes, and take a wider view.
I'm certainly going to continue to resist being taken off it.