Oldvatr
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- Type of diabetes
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I was neither defending or decrying that book or the author, only I analysed press reviews and other forum appraisals (DUK mainly) to see if the book would take the OP down the full keto path, and I found I could not make that connection, so IMO the subject of keto was not of primary need and thus the 30g / 90g carb intake was in fact probably academic anyway.I support all diets that work including the diet described in Joel Fuhrman's book, The End of Diabetes, which is a whole foods, plant based, lower fat, higher carbohydrate diet and Joe Cross' videos on how to restore health via juicing, also a higher carbohydrate diet.
Why? Because ketogenic and low carb researchers Phinney and Volek, have stated repeatedly that 10% of their research subjects do not respond well to a low carb diet. They do better with a higher carb diet. I know people like this.
Additionally, I myself alternate back and forth between the low carbohydrate high fat diet and the low carbohydrate ketogenic diet. I stated that in post #14.
Oldvatr our views are actually aligned most of the time, and I greatly appreciate your thoughtful, informed contributions here. Additionally, why are you defending a book you haven't even read? Particularly when I didn't mention or attack it?
Again, totally confused.
I think I am just a bit sensitive to comments I used to receive from others when I said I was aiming for 50g.day, and was told it had to be <20g or the diet does not work. Your earlier post shows this is not a view you hold, and we are generally in agreement. We both seem to flip in and out of ketosis at will and are happy with this.
Incidentally science studies have established that a high carb, VERY LOW fat diet does work for some diabetics, but the secret is keeping the fat lower than usual. It seems to be the combination of high carb, high fat that is so deadly for T2D.