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Debbie T

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hi everyone. I’ve only recently been diagnosed type 2 with an Hba1c of 51. Dietary advice was just to reduce carbs and increase veg. Also that cereals such as bran flakes and porridge are ok and that seeded bread is preferable. Told to restrict rice /pasta portions to 75g. My question is, should I be counting Grams of carbohydrate or is that a bit obsessive? How many grams should I be aiming for? I need to lose some weight and reduce my bmi and have managed to shed 3lbin the last three weeks so I must be doing something right. At the moment it feels as though I’m mourning all the things I cant have. Any advice would be great thanks
 
Hi @Debbie T and welcome!

I’m tagging @daisy1 for some useful information including about diet.

Many of us on here do count carbs and have found that minimising them helps to manage our blood sugar levels.

You might find the dietdoctor website helpful for ideas and inspiration and there’s a whole section of the forum dedicated to low carb eating, including a great thread where members log what they've eaten and share recipe ideas.
 
No need to count Carbs

Just ignore the advice given, and cut out Bread, Rice, Pasta and Potatoes all together.
 
hi everyone. I’ve only recently been diagnosed type 2 with an Hba1c of 51. Dietary advice was just to reduce carbs and increase veg. Also that cereals such as bran flakes and porridge are ok and that seeded bread is preferable. Told to restrict rice /pasta portions to 75g. My question is, should I be counting Grams of carbohydrate or is that a bit obsessive? How many grams should I be aiming for? I need to lose some weight and reduce my bmi and have managed to shed 3lbin the last three weeks so I must be doing something right. At the moment it feels as though I’m mourning all the things I cant have. Any advice would be great thanks
My nurse put me on low carb sensible fat diet. She said most veg that grow above ground hood, those that grow below ground bad. Porridge is high in carbs. I use samsung health app where I can check my carbs. I aim for between 50 and 70 gsm of carbs per day. I have lost over 2 stone since February
 
hi everyone. I’ve only recently been diagnosed type 2 with an Hba1c of 51. Dietary advice was just to reduce carbs and increase veg. Also that cereals such as bran flakes and porridge are ok and that seeded bread is preferable. Told to restrict rice /pasta portions to 75g. My question is, should I be counting Grams of carbohydrate or is that a bit obsessive? How many grams should I be aiming for? I need to lose some weight and reduce my bmi and have managed to shed 3lbin the last three weeks so I must be doing something right. At the moment it feels as though I’m mourning all the things I cant have. Any advice would be great thanks

Brace yourself for some adjustment. Mourning all the things that you can't have is good. It means you accept that you can't have them. :-)

As a guide, foods should have less than 10 grams of carbohydrate per 100 grams.

That rules out things like bread, porridge, cereals, pizza, pasta, pies (and all things beginning with "P" :woot:).

The main thing is that carbohydrates turn to sugar. May be slower (low GI) or faster (high GI) but eventually they all turn to sugar.

To go low carbohydrate you should be below 130 grams per day. Hard core is nearer to 20 grams per day.

The best advice is to get a Blood Glucose meter and test to see which foods affect you most, then avoid them. Eat to your meter.

The good news is that 51 isn't up in the stratosphere, and if you get stuck in you should be able to get down to pre-diabetic levels quite quickly and hopefully down to non-diabetic levels after a time. I'm grumbling at myself because my latest test came in at 47 which is pre-diabetic and just below diabetic but the surgery will be happy with that.

Carbohydrates are addictive. If you can accept that then breaking the habit becomes a lot easier.

Welcome to the forum; you will find loads of support and information here.
 
I have to disagree with @britishpub in that you need to consider all advice given. Everyone is different and you need to find what level of carbs is right for you. The only way to do that for certain is to test before and after meals to see what your body can deal with.
I’ll tell you what I did with carb levels. On diagnosis I started with keeping under 100g/day my bloods sugars gradually came down but at six weeks they plateaued at a level which was still too high so I reduced it further. I gradually reduced them til my HbA1c was non diabetic. I have maintained my HbA1c in the mid 30s (non-diabetic) for a year now by keeping under 50g carbs/day.
 
The good news is you get to eat bacon and cheese and cream and berries and sausages but not recommended all on the same plate :)
 
@Debbie T

Hello Debbie and welcome to the Forum :) Here is the Basic Information we give to new members and I hope you will find it useful. Ask as many questions as you want and someone will be able to help.

BASIC INFORMATION FOR NEWLY DIAGNOSED DIABETICS

Diabetes is the general term to describe people who have blood that is sweeter than normal. A number of different types of diabetes exist.

A diagnosis of diabetes tends to be a big shock for most of us. It’s far from the end of the world though and on this forum you'll find well over 235,000 people who are demonstrating this.

On the forum we have found that with the number of new people being diagnosed with diabetes each day, sometimes the NHS is not being able to give all the advice it would perhaps like to deliver - particularly with regards to people with type 2 diabetes.

The role of carbohydrate

Carbohydrates are a factor in diabetes because they ultimately break down into sugar (glucose) within our blood. We then need enough insulin to either convert the blood sugar into energy for our body, or to store the blood sugar as body fat.

If the amount of carbohydrate we take in is more than our body’s own (or injected) insulin can cope with, then our blood sugar will rise.

The bad news

Research indicates that raised blood sugar levels over a period of years can lead to organ damage, commonly referred to as diabetic complications.

The good news

People on the forum here have shown that there is plenty of opportunity to keep blood sugar levels from going too high. It’s a daily task but it’s within our reach and it’s well worth the effort.

Controlling your carbs

The info below is primarily aimed at people with type 2 diabetes, however, it may also be of benefit for other types of diabetes as well.

There are two approaches to controlling your carbs:
  • Reduce your carbohydrate intake
  • Choose ‘better’ carbohydrates
Reduce your carbohydrates

A large number of people on this forum have chosen to reduce the amount of carbohydrates they eat as they have found this to be an effective way of improving (lowering) their blood sugar levels.

The carbohydrates which tend to have the most pronounced effect on blood sugar levels tend to be starchy carbohydrates such as rice, pasta, bread, potatoes and similar root vegetables, flour based products (pastry, cakes, biscuits, battered food etc) and certain fruits.

Choosing better carbohydrates

The low glycaemic index diet is often favoured by healthcare professionals but some people with diabetes find that low GI does not help their blood sugar enough and may wish to cut out these foods altogether.

Read more on carbohydrates and diabetes.

Over 145,000 people have taken part in the Low Carb Program - a 10 week structured education course that is helping people lose weight and reduce medication dependency by explaining the science behind carbs, insulin and GI.

Eating what works for you

Different people respond differently to different types of food. What works for one person may not work so well for another. The best way to see which foods are working for you is to test your blood sugar with a glucose meter.

To be able to see what effect a particular type of food or meal has on your blood sugar is to do a test before the meal and then test after the meal. A test 2 hours after the meal gives a good idea of how your body has reacted to the meal.

The blood sugar ranges recommended by NICE are as follows:

Blood glucose ranges for type 2 diabetes
  • Before meals: 4 to 7 mmol/l
  • 2 hours after meals: under 8.5 mmol/l
Blood glucose ranges for type 1 diabetes (adults)
  • Before meals: 4 to 7 mmol/l
  • 2 hours after meals: under 9 mmol/l
Blood glucose ranges for type 1 diabetes (children)
  • Before meals: 4 to 8 mmol/l
  • 2 hours after meals: under 10 mmol/l
However, those that are able to, may wish to keep blood sugar levels below the NICE after meal targets.

Access to blood glucose test strips

The NICE guidelines suggest that people newly diagnosed with type 2 diabetes should be offered:
  • structured education to every person and/or their carer at and around the time of diagnosis, with annual reinforcement and review
  • self-monitoring of plasma glucose to a person newly diagnosed with type 2 diabetes only as an integral part of his or her self-management education

Therefore both structured education and self-monitoring of blood glucose should be offered to people with type 2 diabetes. Read more on getting access to blood glucose testing supplies.

You may also be interested to read questions to ask at a diabetic clinic.

Note: This post has been edited from Sue/Ken's post to include up to date information.
Take part in Diabetes.co.uk digital education programs and improve your understanding. Most of these are free.

  • Low Carb Program - it's made front-page news of the New Scientist and The Times. Developed with 20,000 people with type 2 diabetes; 96% of people who take part recommend it... find out why

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Hello Debbie. Like you, I was diagnosed recently -June - with T2. I went as low carb as I could. Bit of milk in tea /coffee but max 2 cups a day. No carbs otherwise unless I had a bit of cheese. Definitely no sucrose. Read food labels for carbs like my life depended on it
HbA1c went from 89 to 34 last Friday. Ok, maybe I was a bit tough on myself but it worked. I eat to my meter mostly although I find some fluctuation in response to foods on different days. That’s life. One size does not fit all, that’s clear. Maybe cold weather will affect readings, I have yet to find out. Oh...and interestingly...I rarely got a meter reading below 6 on any day but my HbA1c says my average is +/- 5.5. So there you go. Best of luck, giving up the carbs is hard to begin with but does get easier. Try baked spud skins!
 
No need to count Carbs

Just ignore the advice given, and cut out Bread, Rice, Pasta and Potatoes all together.
Thats just what I do.I do read food labels though to avoid crazy amounts of carbs and added sugars.

I also dont count calories.I just eat decent sized portions,record every meal to keep aware of intake.Snacks have to be very reasonable calorie wise,like carrots and such.

I totally ignore the ADA,but thats what works for me,just saying.I think they are nuts.Get your diet advice from the folks here,they know personally things that work and dont work.Not some dietary 'theory' but factual BTDT experience.

Losing weight and sugars controlled.Im very lucky though,some folks dont have it that easy.
 
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