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How many insulin units do you take?

Discussion in 'Type 1 Diabetes' started by bisalimo, Jul 4, 2019.

  1. bisalimo

    bisalimo · Active Member

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    Because i thought type 1 have no insulin resistance, so if, and only if, a type 2 has no insulin resistance his exogenous (insulin shots) must be lower than that of a type 1, because type 1 have no/very little endogenous insulin, but according to helensaramy (#9) type 1 can be insulin resistant too
     
  2. Mel dCP

    Mel dCP Type 1 · Well-Known Member

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    Ah, I see! But isn’t insulin resistance the hallmark of type 2? The only reason I can see for doses to be less than a T1 is if you’re still making your own and need a “top-up”.

    And sadly, type one doesn’t give us any immunity from getting resistance to insulin :(
     
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    satindoll Type 2 · Well-Known Member

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    Just to make things clear and add to the mix.......... some t2's like me are non insulin producers and may not be insulin resistant and are insulin sensitive or a combination of both.......everyone's diabetic profile is unique to them......there is no one size fits any particular type.
     
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  4. bisalimo

    bisalimo · Active Member

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    Yes, that's why i wrote "if and only if"

    My fasting insulin is 7.42 (normal range 3-25) and don't be mistaken, just like blood glucose, being closer to minimum value is better than closer to maximum

    But my Homa IR is 2.0 (normal range 0.5 - 1.5) again lower is better, so i'm definitely insulin resistant

    And Homa B is 54%, should be 70-150, so though i'm still making normal insulin, that is not enough to cover the carb intake as my body can not make use of the internal insulin efficiently and effectively, and i need 18 units of external insulin shot to top up
     
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    therower Type 1 · Well-Known Member

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    On an average day an average amount, somewhat like average people.
    You’ve asked an average question and gleaned some useful insight into TYPE 1 diabetes. Hopefully you are know better informed and will not be so reliant on misguided information and assumptions.
     
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    becca59 Type 1 · Well-Known Member

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    I’m sorry, this thread that has gained momentum throughout the day has started to irritate me. I am having a bad day. My average insulin usage is usually pretty low, because that is what my body requires and suits the type of food I eat. However, today that has doubled. I don’t know why, I don’t feel like I am falling ill. Which for type 1s will mean a steep rise in insulin. It has required vigilance. Would not have made an iota of difference if I had low carbed high fatted. As basically I only ate a few raspberries and yoghurt. 10 carbs worth. Which is my usual routine.
    Tomorrow I will be swimming, so that will require a different daily amount. The day after I would usually need less but hey after today who knows.
    This disease is not average, I am not average and if I could just take a set amount every day and not have to scan this £45 thing on my arm every 30 minutes I would be one happy bunny.
    Hopefully average day will return tomorrow.
     
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    Sibyl Type 1 · Well-Known Member

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    Big hugs! Annoying bugga ain’t it?!
     
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    NicoleC1971 Type 1 · Well-Known Member

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    I get the curiosity about how it all works. I take 0.78 hourly basal novo rapid and 1-1.5 units to cover low carb meals with protein except for Fridays when I eat more carbs (can't resist the home mande scones at work).
    Am worried about getting insulin resistant so try to minimise the insulin via lchf. I do notice that the heavier I am the more insulin I need and whilst pregnant I got very insulin resistant (this also happens in puberty as the body's way of growing in both instances).
    Other interesting take on type 1 for me was that according to Benjamin Bikkman (expert researcher in glucagon and insulin), type 1 could be re classified as a disease of insufficient suppression of pancreatic alpha cells. Endogenous insulin suppresses glucagon from the alpha cells whereas exogenous insulin doesn't hence our basal dosing requirements.
     
  9. JAT1

    JAT1 Type 1 · Well-Known Member

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    I find it very interesting to know how much insulin, what kind and how often other Type 1s are taking. I know I have to find my own way, and repeatedly so, given all the variables that impact dosage requirements. After a period of relative stability in terms of knowing how much insulin to inject for a given feed, I'm now going through a period of instability. No two days are the same even if I eat the same stuff. I take 5 Basaglar every evening and Novorapid before meals and heavy snacks. Novorapid doses can range from 3 to 7 units, 4 to 5 times daily, depending on food, etc, etc and etc.
     
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    Circuspony Type 1 · Well-Known Member

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    9 Tresiba and Novorapid can be anything from 3 units all day (it was hot and I was walking around) to 10 units.

    A little goes a long way if I'm exercising or if it's hot weather. I had a glucose tolerance test last Nov which showed I was making some of my own insulin but my pancreas was really slow in responding.

    Some days though it wakes up without warning and that can lead to a really interesting day!!
     
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    kevinfitzgerald Type 1 · Well-Known Member

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    Dependent on what I want to eat and all the other variables, roughly 6 - 10 units of Novorapid for breakfast then anything from 8 - 12 units for lunch and for supper anything from 10 - 18 units of Novorapid... Lantus always 16 units prior to bed which is normally about Midnight / 1am
     
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