alison m said:the DN told me I wasn't likely to get hypo's, I am confused,
alison m said:DN told me I wasn't likely to get hypo's, I am confused, I have not got a GM and I don't see the nurse for another two weeks, would just like some advice as I am new to all this.
Among the causes are excessive insulin produced in the body (hyperinsulinemia), inborn error of metabolism, medications and poisons, alcohol, hormone deficiencies, prolonged starvation, alterations of metabolism associated with infection, and organ failure.
Pneu said:Right... there needs to be a clear definition here... many non-diabetics regularly have blood glucose of below 4 mmol/l... if the mean fasting blood glucose of the general non-diabetic population is in the very low 4's then by definition some people are going to have fasting blood glucose in the mid - high 3's... (3.3 mmol/l is commonly citied as the 'lower level' of normal blood glucose). What you don't see is them regularly falling over or collapsing from hypo's because this is 'normal' blood glucose.
Anyone controlling their diabetes that doesn't use pancreas stimulating drugs or insulin is as likely as a non-diabetic to suffer from a hypo... i.e. yes you can still have them but you are going to have to have done something pretty daft to suffer from one... i.e. drink a lot... do a lot of exercise without eating... etc... This is exactly the reason why for instance the DVLA does not require these types of people to undergo the same level of scrutiny as insulin taking diabetics.. the risk to them is no greater than a normal member of the public.
If you take insulin then ofcourse you need to be much more aware of what your blood glucose are doing... as a type I diabetic of many years the danger from hypo's comes from the rapid change in blood glucose that insulin can produce.. Along with the fact that your body is not in control of the amount of insulin in effect... in a non-insulin controlled diabetic as your blood glucose drops lower your body stops producing insulin, your liver dumps glucose and all is well... in an insulin controlled diabetic that insulin keeps acting if there is too much insulin in your system them your livers glucose dump is not enough and your blood glucose continues to drop..
Therefore it is advised that you keep your blood glucose above 4 mmol/l... this ensures that you have some buffer to dangerously low blood glucose and also ensures that you maintain a hypo awareness (for most people)...
The point at which low blood glucose becomes dangerous is when it starts to effect brain function this is known as Neuroglycopenia.. Neuroglycopenia causes the majority of the symptoms that we associate with hypos... mood swings, fatigue, weakness, apathy, lethargy, confusion, amnesia, dizziness, delirium, etc... these symptoms typically present at between 2.0 - 2.4 mmol/l...
So in summary: If you are a diabetic who does not take pancreas stimulating drugs or insulin then a reading of between 3.3 - 4.0 mmol/l is nothing to be overly concerned about (you aren't about to drop into diabetic coma!.. indeed this may even be 'normal' for you). If you plan on exercising or drinking or any sort of activity that may effect your blood glucose or you have recently undertaken any of these activities then you may want to eat some carbs...
If on the other hand you are taking insulin or pancreas stimulating drugs and you get a reading that is sub 4 mmol/l then you should take it seriously and actively correct.
FergusCrawford said:As a T2 on Gliclazide, I very occasionally have hypos not the "I feel woozy" type but the "I'm low,I need carbs" type, dpping to 3.9 and sorted by a snack. They occur when i am working hard physically eg heavy gardening.
I tend to run pretty low BG wise as above 6.5 i tend to feel rough and when not driving tend to feel best at 4.5-5.4.
FergusCrawford said:...above 6.5 i tend to feel rough and when not driving tend to feel best at 4.5-5.4.
I generally have a good sense of where my BG is
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