I am close to panic Type 2.

AndBreathe

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Great post @AndBreathe

The only think I would add is that the idea of a personal fat threshold is going to be fluid over time. Age, physical deterioration, rise and fall in fitness, muscle mass, etc. etc. will mean that the same person is bound to experience a different level of personal fat threshold over the years.

So getting slim is wonderful.
Staying slim is vital.
But even when you stay the same weight, you may find that your personal fat threshold shifts downwards over time, even if you don't gain weight.

Excellent point B, depressingly well made!! :cool:
 

AndyANR

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Great post @AndBreathe

The only think I would add is that the idea of a personal fat threshold is going to be fluid over time. Age, physical deterioration, rise and fall in fitness, muscle mass, etc. etc. will mean that the same person is bound to experience a different level of personal fat threshold over the years.

So getting slim is wonderful.
Staying slim is vital.
But even when you stay the same weight, you may find that your personal fat threshold shifts downwards over time, even if you don't gain weight.

I am at the early stages to getting my body back on track. It will be a journey of discovery to find out what my personal fat threshold might be. I am fasting for 16 hours twice a week then doing a gentle re-carb with some 'good' carbs .... a journey of learning about my blood sugars and how they react to different foods, rather than the 'magical mystery tour' I have been on for a few weeks!

My task from now would seem to be to get a couple more kilo's off (down to BMI 21 ish ... means I have some leeway to shed more if needed for better control), but mainly to get 'leaner' in my top half .... running, which I have done for 5 years helps the legs etc. I am doing resistance exercises (a stretchy cord), light arm weights, doing sit ups etc.

We have booked to go on holiday a second time later in the year ... alone for the first time in 6 years .... anyone else have their grown up children hanging on? I suppose we should be happy they think it is cool to be with mum and dad! My daughters think I am a cool dresser now .... old clothes in the charity shop and my new clothes (with many designer labels) ALL from charity shops. New prescription sunglasses for £20 from an online shop .... life seems great .... until I think of a close friend with terminal cancer.

best wishes

Andy
 
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EmilyRoseMac

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Hey, I'm studying nutrition so have some knowledge of type 2 diabetes but not quite enough to answer all your questions confidently, wouldn't want to give you bad advice through lack of knowledge. What I would say is to try to stay calm, panicking is only going to make you miserable.
I would say you should go on the holiday and enjoy your life rather than sitting at home feeling down letting diabetes ruin your life. If you do choose to go on holiday make sure you get yourself some health insurance before you go that covers diabetes related costs.
It sounds like you've done a lot to try and stabilise your blood glucose levels and it must be really frustrating that they're not doing what you expected. Maybe try and work out what foods it is that you're eating that are making your bloods high? I know that will be much easier said than done.
The good thing about type 2 diabetes is that from the research I've done I've found that it may actually be possible to reverse the effects of the diabetes through diet and exercise and good lifestyle choices. This is because the insulin resistance may be caused by build ups of fat stores preventing the insulin from getting to the tissue. Other factors such as genetic predisposition also could have a role in the development of type 2 diabetes as well though. What I will say is that the readings of 11-12 aren't too high, between 5 and 10 would be ideal but you're not sky high, try not to get too stressed over it. Obviously this won't happen over night but stick to the healthy diet and the running and don't loose hope. Best of luck.
 

ElyDave

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Hi,

Please bear with me when i ask some questions, @catherinecherub has already asked about medication. That can be a huge factor.

So can the heat.

Are you drinking masses, esp with your running
Enough salt? (You should add extra salt when low carbing, esp in hot weather)

But i really want to ask what exactly you are eating on your low carbing, meal by meal, for a couple of days. It is astonishingly easy for a first time low carber to sabotage their own best efforts - through no fault of their own.

Re you bg readings, and the risks - levels that high are not good, but i agree that they are not immediately risky. But they definitely need watching (congratulations for getting into a pattern of self testing).

Can i suggest that you get really systematic for a few days.
Test on waking, and on going to bed.
Test just before food, then 2 hours later.
Record what you ate, the portion size, and the readings.
Also test before exercise, regularly during, and after.

I realise that is a lot of finger pricks, but will tell you a lot about how your body is reacting, and if your bg continues to rise, it will give you evidence to take back to your doc.

There is always the chance you are an undiagnosed T1 or T1.5, so the more evidence you collect, the better.

Please let us know how you get on?

Oh, one more thing. A while ago, on this forum, I remember reading some T1s talking about how you shouldn't exercise with elevated blood glucose. Hopefully one of them will be along to give an indication of how high, is 'high'. For some reason, i'm thinking it was areound 13 mmol/l, but i may be wrong... @tim2000s , @ElyDave maybe you can help?


Not been around for a bit, so coming into this late.

If higher than about 14 dn with Ketones, exercise is not recommended.

My aim, if exercising without sufficient time for a long basal rate reduction on the pump, such as this morning is a bot different.

in sequence it went something like this
1) wake up at 6am, think "why the **@* am I doing this on a Sunday"
2) set TBR of 30% for 6 hours
3) breakfast (cake and toast) approx 40-45g carbs, no bolus, coffee
4) get ready to run, BG just before run 10.9
5) 07:30, set out for a25km run.
6) monitor BG and eat accordingly

If I was on basal/bolus injections pretty similar, I'd cut that morning levemir to approx 1/3 of normal or lower, bolus would be nothing or perhaps half a unit.

Typically my BG would end up around 9-10, but occaisionally higher, and at possible ketone levels, but as I knew it was induced by me and temporary rather than a chronic lack of insulin that wasn't a consideration.
 
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