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hanadr

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I just received a mailshot offering o help me stop smoking. from NHS SMOKEFREE.
I'm not and neveer have been a smoker.
I'm furious and so I've written to them:
>>You have made me VERY angry. I received, in the mail, an offer of help to stop smoking. I have never smoked. I AM however a type 2 diabetic, who is restricted to just 3 packs of blood glucose test strips per year on prescription, and because I find it essential for GOOD control, to monitor my blood glucose more often than once or twice a week, I PAY for strips ( out of my pension). Why if the NHS can afford to send out unwanted and expensive leaflets, cannot they redirect funds to patients with life long conditions? After all, Smokers all started the dreadful habit voluntarily. Why then should they be offered Free help, when those of us who didn't Choose T2DM, (and please don't just blame lifestyle!)have to buy their own test supplies?
 
You are right to be furious, its a joke that people who do drugs and smoke get more resources thrown at them than people who need them.

Personally I think and this is going to be a bit controversial :) Anyone who chose to start smoking should not get free NHS treatment. I make exception for older smokers because in the 50s 60s 70s the dangers were not well documented and if anything smoking encouraged especially in the services. Anyone born from 1975 onwards should not get free treatment or help from the NHS for smoking related illness..

As for drug users :evil: :evil: why the hell should they get free anything, they chose to do drugs.

Thats it now you got me going. :lol:
 
This isn't a competition. Everyone is deserving of help.

It's a bit like saying T2s don't deserve help because we caused our illness by overeating.

The issue is how it targets its funds not who benefits.
 
Spiral said:
This isn't a competition. Everyone is deserving of help.
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I am not saying they do not deserve help, what I am saying is there should not be free funding for stuff to help people stop smoking or free methadone for something that was willingly self inflicted.

Spiral said:
It's a bit like saying T2s don't deserve help because we caused our illness by overeating.
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Thats nothing like what I am saying (or trying to say) and thats not true in a lot of cases.

Also since say 1980, how many adverts, tv campaigns, leaflets, information etc. etc. have you seen warning that overeating may cause type 2 diabetes? how much did you know about type 2 diabetes or diabetes in genral until you got it. ?

Now how many of the above have you seen about what smoking does? Anyone who starts smoking in this day and age does not deserve free NHS care for smoking related problems.

On the same token, I myself as a type 1, if I ignore what the doctor says, don't take my insulin and get ill and as a result have to go in and out of hospital, why should I then get free treatment on the NHS?

Spiral said:
The issue is how it targets its funds not who benefits.
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I do agree with you on that. :D :mrgreen:
 
Fujifilm said:
Anyone who starts smoking in this day and age does not deserve free NHS care for smoking related problems.
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Anyone who smokes is actually MORE deserving of free NHS care, as they have already paid for it through tobacco duty:

  • Annual cost to NHS of treating smoking-related disease - £2billion
    Annual revenue to UK government from tobacco duty - £10billion
So I agree the efforts to persuade people to give up should be abandoned, but for financial reasons only.
 
That means if you drive a big car or 4 x 4 you are MORE deserving to get free road tax than someone who drives an electric car because you pay more in taxes. :lol:
 
Please don't mention 4 x 4s, they are my other hobby horse. As far as I can see, they should be limited to driving across field and NOT permitted to churn up Green lanes either. I like to walk there safely 8)
My Skoda Octavia is classed as a bigger family car, but doesn't block every other road user's view of the traffic conditions and returns up to 65 miles per gallon on a 1.9turbo diesel engine.
Hana
 
2 Malamutes, 2 sleds.....
What else would fit them in?

Everyone who contributes to our society deserves to get healthcare.

Smokers included.
 
hanadr said:
Please don't mention 4 x 4s, they are my other hobby horse. As far as I can see, they should be limited to driving across field and NOT permitted to churn up Green lanes either. I like to walk there safely 8)
My Skoda Octavia is classed as a bigger family car, but doesn't block every other road user's view of the traffic conditions and returns up to 65 miles per gallon on a 1.9turbo diesel engine.
Hana
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Nothing wrong wit 4 x 4s they only get slated by people who have never driven one. Not sure how you can say they block peoples view, no different to a van or lorry blocking your view. Can't say I have ever seen any churning up green lanes, mine does 35+ to the gallon much better than a lot of cars. :D

But on emissions not so good :oops: but then again I do not buy into the global warming myth.

Takes cover and waits for the flak :lol:
 
Romola said:
Has anybody ever suggested that tranquility of mind might help stabilise blood glucose?
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I read something a while ago about meditation helping a whole heap of medical problems, including diabetes. My sleeping patterns have been all over th eplace for a while. I wonder if a decent nights sleep on a regular basis might help my dawn phenomonon and high morning readings.
 
Romola said:
Has anybody ever suggested that tranquility of mind might help stabilise blood glucose?
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The opposite is stress raises bg levels – and I've read that on here a number of times!

Meditation, mindfulness, EFT – these all help remove negative emotional build-ups and I have found myself leaving off arguments I might have pursued in former times because my greater interest at the minute is keeping bg lower!
DG
 
kegstore said:
Fujifilm said:
Anyone who starts smoking in this day and age does not deserve free NHS care for smoking related problems.
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Anyone who smokes is actually MORE deserving of free NHS care, as they have already paid for it through tobacco duty:

  • Annual cost to NHS of treating smoking-related disease - £2billion
    Annual revenue to UK government from tobacco duty - £10billion
So I agree the efforts to persuade people to give up should be abandoned, but for financial reasons only.
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Hear hear! Divide that £8 billion into the working population and it's easy to see that smokers are actually dying to keep everyone else's taxes down. If the government REALLY wanted people to give up then they would have done it a long time ago.

Just my 2p worth

A
 
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