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Gezzabelle

Gezzabelle

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Type of diabetes
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Latest bloods are back and have to have some for liver function repeated in 3 months as nothing conclusive shown up that would be causing high ferritin levels. I have been hauled in for a ''review'' on my cholesterol. Cannot believe they are so petty as it has only gone up point 1 since May despite eating LCHF all that time which more or less proves that eating more so called ''unhealthy'' fat ( e.g butter and cream ) isn't bad for cholesterol at all. The test was done NON fasting as I wasn't told they wanted cholesterol done. I had eaten breakfast and had 2 cups of coffee which would probably explain the point one rise. No doubt I am going to be read the riot act and have statins thrown at me which I am not keen on taking. Have to say I am not looking forward to it at all but will see what Friday brings. I will no doubt be told I am not eating enough fruit and veg and to eat more wholemeal bread pasta and brown rice lol
 
You don't really need to fast for a cholesterol test but do for triglycerides. Let us know how you get on when you go on Friday.
 
I feel for you as I will have my heart review in just under a month .. and expect the same !
When do these people get to think its ok for them with their superior Knowledge (NOT) to talk down to us and force their inaccurate guide lines on to us. Their so call eat well plate almost killed me along with the low fat way of eating ... The wife would tell them to stick it where the sun don't shine .. I would say just nod wildly and do your own thing .. after all its your body .. and they forget that sometimes.
 
I had a full cholesterol check sprung on me when I wasn't fasted. Nursie said it didn't matter. My brother, a senior biochemist, says it does. I know who I believe so just ignored the results. If you don't want statins, don't accept them. They can't force feed you or follow you around 24/7. Good luck with getting your ferritin mystery sorted x
 
I consider cholesterol pretty meaningless at the best of times, and unless it is fasting, it is TOTALLY meaningless, because the only useful thing (trigs) are affected by food.

Good luck in not taking any nonsense from them, @Gezzabelle

Although you have probably only been called in because your total cholesterol is higher than the nonsensical 4 the NHS has pulled out of its misinformed derriere, as a fantasy number for all diabetics. Even for women, who are known to benefit from higher cholesterol the older they get (and i don't know about you, but i get older every day).
 
There seems to be a 'blinkered' view among the majority of the medical profession that statins are a wonder drug. I always disagree with my DN when she suggests going back onto statins and remind her that my hba1c went from 48 to 54 when I was on them and I came off them because of other side effects which I am not prepared to put up with again.
 
My GP tells me that my cholesterol is excellent so I don't get into numbers. If he tells me that it's gone up, I'll refer him to the Honolulu Heart Study. He knows there's no way that I will take statins. I'm already stuck on Aspirin when I don't want to be. Four days after diagnosis, I was in no state to argue.

But I certainly would stand my ground against statins. My father lost weight, got his BP down, ate a low fat vegetarian diet, took his statins and his health deteriorated years before it ever should have done. Severe muscle wasting, fatigue, nightmares, insomnia, to name but a few.

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Agree with all of the above....it is stupid to test after I have eaten....they think they can say it doesn't matter if I have or not ...funny that after having many FASTING tests. The mythical low numbers they require now are ridiculous and there is no way I am taking statins. If 5.8 was fine in May then 5.9 is fine in November. I am changing nothing I eat and I know it's going to be a total waste of time listening to my over weight nurse reading me the riot act.
 
Gezzabelle said:
Latest bloods are back and have to have some for liver function repeated in 3 months as nothing conclusive shown up that would be causing high ferritin levels. I have been hauled in for a ''review'' on my cholesterol. Cannot believe they are so petty as it has only gone up point 1 since May despite eating LCHF all that time which more or less proves that eating more so called ''unhealthy'' fat ( e.g butter and cream ) isn't bad for cholesterol at all. The test was done NON fasting as I wasn't told they wanted cholesterol done. I had eaten breakfast and had 2 cups of coffee which would probably explain the point one rise. No doubt I am going to be read the riot act and have statins thrown at me which I am not keen on taking. Have to say I am not looking forward to it at all but will see what Friday brings. I will no doubt be told I am not eating enough fruit and veg and to eat more wholemeal bread pasta and brown rice lol
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Now that sugar is the new salt/butter/animal fat, should we be eating more fruit??? After all sugar is sugar is sugar if its by the spoonful, fruit sugar, carb sugar. Just goes to show the left hand doesn't know what the right hand is doing
 
Brunneria said:
I consider cholesterol pretty meaningless at the best of times, and unless it is fasting, it is TOTALLY meaningless, because the only useful thing (trigs) are affected by food.
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Stored away in my little amoury of arguments if needed ... ;)
 
Gezzabelle said:
Agree with all of the above....it is stupid to test after I have eaten....they think they can say it doesn't matter if I have or not ...funny that after having many FASTING tests. The mythical low numbers they require now are ridiculous and there is no way I am taking statins. If 5.8 was fine in May then 5.9 is fine in November. I am changing nothing I eat and I know it's going to be a total waste of time listening to my over weight nurse reading me the riot act.
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Smile sweetly and ask the nurse to explain how the 'healthy' level was medically formulated and could she please give you the name of the research that underpinned HER clinical decision because you would like to read it. Worked for me!! :) Sue x
 
Geez I would have loved to have been a fly on the wall on that one.

The plain simple truth is that the majority of these practice nurses know nothing about diabetes. They give shots, take blood, weigh people, bandage them etc.

They aren't nutritionists or dieticians, they aren't GPs and frankly, I'm surprised that some of them ever managed a degree in nursing.

I have a rep at my GP's practice, obviously, otherwise a nurse I'd never met before, wouldn't try to give me a hard time. But any time I question what they say, they have no answers.


Thankfully, my GP is really smart and does.

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Celeriac said:
Geez I would have loved to have been a fly on the wall on that one.

The plain simple truth is that the majority of these practice nurses know nothing about diabetes. They give shots, take blood, weigh people, bandage them etc.

They aren't nutritionists or dieticians, they aren't GPs and frankly, I'm surprised that some of them ever managed a degree in nursing.

I have a rep at my GP's practice, obviously, otherwise a nurse I'd never met before, wouldn't try to give me a hard time. But any time I question what they say, they have no answers.


Thankfully, my GP is really smart and does.

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It only works if you smile sweetly as you say it!;) But seriously, I have got to the stage where my expectation is that if someone wants to dump drugs down my throat they have to show me they have at least a basic knowledge of the consequence of their demands! After all if the same nurse told me to swallow a razor blade everyday, would I, just because she wore a uniform????
 
Gezzabelle said:
Agree with all of the above....it is stupid to test after I have eaten....they think they can say it doesn't matter if I have or not ...funny that after having many FASTING tests. The mythical low numbers they require now are ridiculous and there is no way I am taking statins. If 5.8 was fine in May then 5.9 is fine in November. I am changing nothing I eat and I know it's going to be a total waste of time listening to my over weight nurse reading me the riot act.
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I'm in the +8 for TC's and having an understanding with my GP.... three statins have given me liver function issues... so we're running out of options, there is one left to try but it is not meant to be as good....
I would stick with what you are doing as it seems to be working, good stuff.
 
Daphne917 said:
There seems to be a 'blinkered' view among the majority of the medical profession that statins are a wonder drug. I always disagree with my DN when she suggests going back onto statins and remind her that my hba1c went from 48 to 54 when I was on them and I came off them because of other side effects which I am not prepared to put up with again.
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Just read this... And have been wondering why the heck my sleep has been so bloody awful. I'm on Statins, do they really cause insomnia (I know, I mean, is insomnia a vside effect...?)
 
Rudyard said:
Just read this... And have been wondering why the heck my sleep has been so bloody awful. I'm on Statins, do they really cause insomnia (I know, I mean, is insomnia a vside effect...?)
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Not looked at your details but high or fluctuating blood glucose levels give some disruptive sleep or insomnia.
Statins as a side effect would probably be low but you never know!
If it is your bloods, getting them back in normal levels would help!
 
Rudyard said:
Just read this... And have been wondering why the heck my sleep has been so bloody awful. I'm on Statins, do they really cause insomnia (I know, I mean, is insomnia a vside effect...?)
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I could not sleep v well when on them but after I started experiencing dizzy spells which the pharmacist said was a possible side effect I told my GP I was not going to take them anymore - he agreed and I've been OK since.
 
Latest post review...... Nurse says your cholesterol went up on your last test......( by .1 and due to the fact I had eaten breakfast and had 2 coffees as no one told me I was having a test for it ) She agreed that would account for the tiny rise. She said right Rita .... we have 2 ways to tackle this.....1. Diet.... 2 Exercise. At this point I showed her a list of what I eat and asked what I could change....she looked...raised her eye brows and said....er...nothing at all. She then suggested statins which I refused point blank. I was then told to ring the NHS Lifestyle link to get good eating advice ;) My Ferritin levels have come down from 227 to 156 so that has to be good and I have to have a retest in 3 months as they would like them lower. All in all a total waste of time as expected
 
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