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paulydoodle

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Hi,

I have been a diabeteic for the past six years or so. Initially everything was well controlled by diet, it then progressed to metformin twice a day and then metformin 3 times a day. At present my levels can range from 8.5 upto 18, 19 and even in the twenties. I must admit that I am not good at sticking to diets and I love tea with a spoon of sugar.

I am constantly tired and perspire heavily. Any advice would be most welcome.
 
Although you are not newly diagnosed I think that maybe you might benefit from some of the advice that Sue and I regularly give out to newly diagnosed Diabetic's, particularly in relation to carbohydrate intake and changes you possibly need to make.........I think you probably know that they have to be made if you wish to regain control of your Diabetes. do things in stages and then they are not so daunting........it's a lifestyle, not a diet.

Here is the advice we usually give to newly diagnosed diabetics. We hope that these few ideas gained through experience help you to gain control and give you some understanding of Diabetes. This forum doesn't always follow the recommended dietary advice, you have to work out what works for you as we are all different.

It's not just 'sugars' you need to avoid, diabetes is an inability to process glucose properly. Carbohydrate converts, in the body, to glucose. So it makes sense to reduce the amount of carbohydrate that you eat which includes sugars.


The main carbs to avoid OR reduce are the complex or starchy carbohydrates such as bread, potatoes, pasta, rice, starchy root veg and also any flour based products. The starchy carbs all convert 100% to glucose in the body and raise the blood sugar levels significantly.

If you are on Insulin you may find that reducing the carb intake also means that you can reduce your dose of insulin. This can help you to keep weight gain down as Insulin tends to make you put on weight and eventually cause insulin resistance. This should be done slowly so as not to cause hypos.

The way to find out how different foods affect you is to do regular daily testing and keep a food diary for a couple of weeks. If you test just before eating, then two hours after eating, you will see the effect of certain foods on your blood glucose levels. Some foods, which are slow acting carbohydrates, are absorbed more slowly so you may need to test three or even four hours later to see the effect that these have on your blood glucose levels.

Buy yourself a carb counter book (you can get these on-line) and you will be able to work out how much carbs you are eating, when you test, the reading two hours after should be roughly the same as the before eating reading, if it is then that meal was fine, if it isn’t then you need to check what you have eaten and think about reducing the portion size of carbs.

When you are buying products check the total carbohydrate content, this includes the sugar content. Do not just go by the amount of sugar on the packaging as this is misleading to a diabetic.

As for a tester, try asking the nurse/doctor and explain that you want to be proactive in managing your own diabetes and therefore need to test so that you can see just how foods affect your blood sugar levels. Hopefully this will work! Sometimes they are not keen to give Type 2’s the strips on prescription, (in the UK) but you can but try!!
If you are an Insulin user in theory you should have no problem getting test strips.

The latest 2010 NICE guidelines for Bg levels are as follows:
Fasting (waking).......between 4 - 7 mmol/l........(Type 1 & 2)
2 hrs after meals......no more than 8.5 mmol/l.....( Type 2)

2hrs after meals....... no more than 9 mmol/l ......(Type 1)

If you are able to keep the post meal numbers lower, so much the better.

It also helps if you can do 30 minutes moderate exercise a day. It doesn't have to be strenuous.

The above is just general advice and it is recommended that you discuss with your HCP before making any changes. You can also ask questions on the forum on anything that is not clear.


Ken / Sue.
 
paulydoodle said:
I must admit that I am not good at sticking to diets and I love tea with a spoon of sugar.

Change to sweetener. It's the easiest thing inth ewrld to do, and I can't believe you didn't do it 6 years ago!

You should know that the longer your diabetes is out of control, the harder it is to return to normal BG levels.

Good luck. AND STOP PUTTING SUGAR IN YOUR TEA!!! :wink:
 
Thank you for the advice, which I do appreaciate. The irony is that my wife is a nurse and my cousin is a doctor specialising in, wait for it, Diabetes. For your information relating to levels, my level has not been less than 9 mmols for ages and yet my GP says that I am well controlled. Now you may understand my concerns.

Thanks
 
Paul.
I think TBH that you either need a referral to an Endocrinologist or consider changing your GP if that person thinks your present levels are acceptable.

They are far from acceptable and are indicative of somebody who has no idea of even the most basic guidelines. The guidelines that we post here are a starting point.....if you can get the levels lower then so much the better. High Bg levels will generate many complications.....the very things that you want to avoid.

It is typical of the attitude of those who are just going through the motions. I used to be stuck with a GP like that for nearly 12 years until I came here and found what exactly I was doing wrong. What rubbish I had been told by so called HCP's and Dietician's. Once here and after following the advice from many well informed Diabetic's I turned everything around and am now a well controlled diabetic whose numbers are all well within those guidelines, lost 5 1/2 stone, feel so much fitter and eats healthily every single day of my life. Listen to the advice you get here, do your own research and make your own mind up about what is best for YOU. You have to live with the Diabetes and it is not progressive as some think........only if you let it takeover and control you.

Ask all the questions you need and there is usually somebody with a good answer. There are many success stories here using all sorts of methods of control, almost always you will find that a reduction of carbohydrates is the starting point for gaining better control and extending your life.
You have choices to make........
 
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