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<blockquote data-quote="Mbaker" data-source="post: 2216859" data-attributes="member: 256617"><p>Our journeys are not all the same, but yours has some similarities to mine, in so far as you were eating high GI foods. In the November of 2014 I felt fine (but was probably pre-diabetic or at least had metabolic syndrome), anyway I decided to go on a health kick. I ate loads of the wrong type of fruit for me (apples, oranges, bananas and worst of all punnets of grapes), on top of that I increased my plain oats with just cinnamon, rice pudding, again plain and the very worst dates and litres of the top brand orange juice. Put all of this on a table and it looks the picture of health - now we know it is just pure sugar. It took me less than a month to feel as though I was at deaths door, and of course the thirstier I got the more orange juice I drank.</p><p></p><p>I remember an anecdote of a lady who had her HbA1c taken at circa 5.2, then less 2 months later full blown diabetes....there is for me definitely a threshold, pft (personal fat threshold) where insulin no longer holds down blood glucose, then wham. David Bobbet, the sponsor of Ivor Cummins was a fit man, aceing health tests, with a HbAc of either 5.2 or 5.3, but in truth he was a ragging diabetic, as his insulin was very high and the food spikes were huge. For others the decline is slower and less noticable.</p><p></p><p>The HbA1c is not the be all and end all, glucose fluctuation is far more important in my view, I like no more than 1.5 mmol/l, standard is around 2 (whilst still hopefully being in the non-diabetic range). I look to HOM-IR, hdl / trig numbers and ratios along with hs-crp as key measurements.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Mbaker, post: 2216859, member: 256617"] Our journeys are not all the same, but yours has some similarities to mine, in so far as you were eating high GI foods. In the November of 2014 I felt fine (but was probably pre-diabetic or at least had metabolic syndrome), anyway I decided to go on a health kick. I ate loads of the wrong type of fruit for me (apples, oranges, bananas and worst of all punnets of grapes), on top of that I increased my plain oats with just cinnamon, rice pudding, again plain and the very worst dates and litres of the top brand orange juice. Put all of this on a table and it looks the picture of health - now we know it is just pure sugar. It took me less than a month to feel as though I was at deaths door, and of course the thirstier I got the more orange juice I drank. I remember an anecdote of a lady who had her HbA1c taken at circa 5.2, then less 2 months later full blown diabetes....there is for me definitely a threshold, pft (personal fat threshold) where insulin no longer holds down blood glucose, then wham. David Bobbet, the sponsor of Ivor Cummins was a fit man, aceing health tests, with a HbAc of either 5.2 or 5.3, but in truth he was a ragging diabetic, as his insulin was very high and the food spikes were huge. For others the decline is slower and less noticable. The HbA1c is not the be all and end all, glucose fluctuation is far more important in my view, I like no more than 1.5 mmol/l, standard is around 2 (whilst still hopefully being in the non-diabetic range). I look to HOM-IR, hdl / trig numbers and ratios along with hs-crp as key measurements. [/QUOTE]
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