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<blockquote data-quote="seadragon" data-source="post: 1445424" data-attributes="member: 195124"><p>Actually yes I am pretty sure and also that plant positive is a vegan advocacy site and we all know vegans are opposed to sat fat on principle as it mostly comes from animal sources. I've read that piece before and looked at the evidence and this guy quoted Taubes as if Diet doctor doesn't agree with Taubes when in fact he has videos by Taubes on his site. Much of the rest is slightly over the top diet doctor bashing. If you go through all the studies over the years that have been used to support the protective effects of whole grains etc they are just about all comparing whole grain vs refined grain or high carb with higher carb. There have not been any studies that properly compare a ketogenic diet vs a low fat vegan diet My view is that both ketogenic and vegan diets may be successful in helping people with diabetes as the extremes of low fat and high carb do seem to work for some ,while low carb and high fat seem to work for many more.</p><p>What we might all agree on is the Eatwell plate doesn't work well for any diabetics. Beyond that whether you choose vegan or LCHF is probably a mater of personal preference and body chemistry and also I have seen for myself that LCHF works so the science on dietdoctor while interesting is secondary to the fact that it simply works for me and for thousands of others.</p><p>I only mention that he gave up being a doctor - I know he was a GP - to illustrate the fact that he had to make a living somehow and if that is through the member subscriptions enabling him to devote himself full-time to dietdoctor.com then that is all good!</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="seadragon, post: 1445424, member: 195124"] Actually yes I am pretty sure and also that plant positive is a vegan advocacy site and we all know vegans are opposed to sat fat on principle as it mostly comes from animal sources. I've read that piece before and looked at the evidence and this guy quoted Taubes as if Diet doctor doesn't agree with Taubes when in fact he has videos by Taubes on his site. Much of the rest is slightly over the top diet doctor bashing. If you go through all the studies over the years that have been used to support the protective effects of whole grains etc they are just about all comparing whole grain vs refined grain or high carb with higher carb. There have not been any studies that properly compare a ketogenic diet vs a low fat vegan diet My view is that both ketogenic and vegan diets may be successful in helping people with diabetes as the extremes of low fat and high carb do seem to work for some ,while low carb and high fat seem to work for many more. What we might all agree on is the Eatwell plate doesn't work well for any diabetics. Beyond that whether you choose vegan or LCHF is probably a mater of personal preference and body chemistry and also I have seen for myself that LCHF works so the science on dietdoctor while interesting is secondary to the fact that it simply works for me and for thousands of others. I only mention that he gave up being a doctor - I know he was a GP - to illustrate the fact that he had to make a living somehow and if that is through the member subscriptions enabling him to devote himself full-time to dietdoctor.com then that is all good! [/QUOTE]
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