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I'm so angry!!!!!

Well spotted Nikkig !

Having just read the article I have developed haemophelia, as in , MY BLOOD IS BOILING OVER !

I see that my local MP Ruffey is part of this group, I shall be asking him for his thoughts.

I note from some of the replies listed a great deat deal of anger and racially motivated comments. I really liked the poster who suggested that these ' snouts in the trough ' MP's should PAY for their second homes ! ( pigs may fly ! )

Superchip
 
Diabetes is NOT a lifestyle disease. True - being overweight may trigger it sooner for Type 2, but you have to be carrying the gene in the first place, and many who are overweight are NEVER diabetic. My grandmother was NEVER overweight and yet was diabetic, as is my father. I did not choose to be diabetic - no one did.

However, people CHOOSE to drink to excess causing liver damage. Some also CHOSE to get in a car and cause injury and death.
People CHOOSE to smoke, causing damage to not only themselves but those around them.
People CHOOSE to take illegal drugs initially - the addiction comes later.

All of the above still receive care when it is needed - AT THE MOMENT.

Let's stop using diabetics as the reason why the NHS is in financial difficulties - there are more valid causes. Let us also not forget that the reason we get stopped money from our income is to ensure that we receive suitable care when we need it, regardless of class, ethnicity or what disease we have.

We either have a NHS or we don't - people cant pick and choose who is deemed to be worthy of it.
 
Sorry for being so dim but cancer in many cases is a preventable lifestyle disease as most sickness are somewhat lifestyle related.

Is this so called "MP/ Doctor" forgotten his oath.

My professional judgement will be exercised as independently as possible and not be influenced by political pressures nor by factors such as the social standing of the patient. I will not put personal profit or advancement above my duty to patients.
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Roy.
 
Hello izzzy !

I think that the 5th word in your 1st line should read ' dim ' not dime ! that would be more apt to politicians.

The only reason that we are not politicians is that we still have a functioning brain.

Who cares about apathy ?

Another Roy

TTFN
 
Hi, Superchip, :)

Well spotted I forgot about the spellcheck being american and me being rather careless with my dim/dime error.

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Roy. :)
 
This sort of thing doesn't surprise me.

I am amazed a doctor is so blinkered that he really thinks diabetes is caused almost entirely by people eating doughnuts for three meals a day.

If he were my GP I would be changing surgeries sharpish, he is a disgrace to his profession. Fingers crossed his ill informed and rather bigoted views will be dumped in the rubbish bin by the govt.
 
I've emailed Dr Lee too. I couldn't let that pass - shows how much he knows about diabetes! It will be interesting to see if I get a proper reply, as MPs are only supposed to deal with queries from their own constituents.

So i copied it to my MP too.

Viv 8)
 
I for one could not afford to pay for my prescriptions. 3 Years ago I had a triple heart bypass and have type 2. So what would happen. Would I just have to die.
 
this is so very bad because there is some evidence that our lifestyles may not be the cause of diabetes 2 but our genetic pre disposition to problems with carbs or exposure to endocrine disrupting chemicals may have caused us to crave carbs that we cannot digest and be too sore all over the body to take exercise

it is truly a case of which comes first - the chicken or the egg

if you have a problem digesting carbs and dont know it [before you are ever diagnosed with type 2 diabetes] you would try eating the recommended diet of 40% to 60% starchy carbs and then get on the rollercoaster of blood sugar fluctuations that would cause pain and uncontrollable cravings and feeling starved as your body is unable to use the nutrients but the calories are turning to fat even though your cells are starved

all of you should write in and point out that blaming type 2 diabetics for wrongful lifestyle, causing their disease is wrong and uneducated attitude.
 
initforlove said:
also

http://abcnews.go.com/Health/story?id=1 ... LUoEWeGc6k

esults showed that children whose mothers smoked during pregnancy were up to four times more likely to develop diabetes later in life than children whose mothers did not smoke.


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so you are paying for your mother's lifestyle choice and not your own

so tell that to your politicians
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:shock: Oh no, I smoked when I had my first child back in the 70's! Is he doomed?.

Hmm, my mother smoked when she was pregnant with me.

But then my grandmother died of diabetes complications. I'm not sure my great grandmother smoked...
 
The world health organization says less than 2% of all diseases are genetic. Type 2 diabetes can be attributed to some genetic reasons, but lifestyle is the number 1 cause. It's caused by insulin resistance which is cause by eating too many high glycemic carbohydrates, that raises blood sugar, that spikes your insulin, that causes insulin resistance, that causes diabetes. What you don't probably realize is what main foods are causing obesity, diabetes, heart disease, inflammatory disease, and dimentia and Alzheimer's, or lets just say most all chronic diseases. It's not genetic that 70% of Americans now are in prediabetes - HbA1C between 5.0% and 6.9%. We're consuming an average of about a half pound of sugar per person, per day and a half pound of wheat per day in the US now.

We Americans are literally killing ourselves (and our children) with high glycemic carbohydrates. The doctors tell us to eat more whole grains. Oh, really? How do you eat whole grains? No one eats whole grains. When whole grains are ground into whole wheat flower, it becomes a super high glycemic food, even higher glycemic than any other commonly eaten food. Two pieces of whole wheat bread raise your blood sugar as much as eating 2 tablespoons of table sugar. A half pound baked potato raises your blood sugar the same as eating a whole pound of white table sugar (sucrose).

The doctors can't control what you eat, only you can. So if you choose to eat high glycemic foods, you will suffer the consequences. Ignorance is no excuse, you can easily go buy a book and educate yourself at what is causing your ill health. Eating a bad diet and then taking drugs to cover up the symptoms isn't a good idea. You can't treat a nutritional disease with drugs. Diabetes drugs raise insulin levels. High insulin is what causes insulin resistance. They may make your BS numbers look better, but they are creating higher insulin levels, higher insulin resistance, higher triglycerides, and increased risk for cardiovascular disease - heart attack and stroke.
Read:
What Really Makes Us Fat by Gary Taubes
The Blood Sugar Solution by Dr Mark Hyman
Wheat Belly by Dr William Davis
Diabetes Without Drugs by Suzy Cohen RPH
 
Robertconroy, I agree with a lot of what you say, but you are asking a lot of the Great British Public to expect them to educate themselves about nutrition - particularly when the officially-recommended diet errs (in my opinion) by recommending low fat/high carb.

Below is a copy of the email I sent to Dr Phillip Lee.


Dear Dr Lee

I was saddened to read your newspaper quote suggesting that all diabetics should pay for their medications, because they owed their diabetes to "lifestyle choice".

You will be as aware as I am that this cannot possibly relate to Type 1 diabetics, whose condition is related to pancreatic failure, and can be genetic or auto-immune, among other causes. A shame that some of the Type 1s I know are having their test strips rationed by their GPs in an effort to save money!

I am a Type 2 of 2.5 years standing, and yes, I am obese. I have followed the NHS recommended low fat, high carb diet for many years, and watched my weight creep up. I could gain weight on 1300 calories a day. I have been dieting since I was 13, and have doubled my weight since then. This is not fun, nor a lifestyle choice.

I had an HbA1c of 6.5 on diagnosis in April 2010. I weighed 21.5 stone - morbidly obese. I immediately began to control my carbohydrate intake to below 70g per day, substituting extra fat and a little extra protein for the carbs, and eating plenty of low-carb fresh veg and a little carefully-chosen fruit. I now consume between 1300 and 2000 calories a day.

After all, my body has an inability to metabolise carbohydrates correctly. It seemed logical, therefore, to restrict my consumption of carbohydrates and give my poor, overworked pancreas a rest!

I now weigh 16.5 stone (and still losing), have an HbA1c of 5.4, total cholesterol of 4.6, an excellent lipid profile including a cholesterol:HDL ratio of 3.5, and BP of 122/78. I still have some insulin resistance, but my reaction to carbs is now much improved. I have lumbar spinal stenosis and cannot exercise much, but my condition is still improving.

I do not have any diabetes complications, and my diabetes costs the NHS 3 x 500mg Metformin daily (mainly to help with weight loss), a pot of 50 test strips monthly, and my routine tests. I am very lucky in that my practice realises just how useful a tool blood glucose testing kit is to someone who really understands and wants to control their diabetes.

Blaming all Type 2s for their diabetes is just plain wrong. 20% of newly-diagnosed Type 2s are of normal weight. 80% of obese people are not diabetic.

I assume you know that insulin resistance causes obesity, as all the unused blood glucose gets stored in the fat cells instead of being used for energy. Too much carbohydrate = too much blood glucose, and also = high cholesterol levels, particularly triglycerides.

In my opinion, and that of many of my fellow controlled-carbers of all Types of diabetes, the NHS dietary advice given to diabetics is just plain wrong for many of us. In fact, in some cases the low fat/high carb advice has actually caused Type 2s to become diabetic.

Diabetes is a very complex condition, and each diabetic is different from all the others. It is totally unfair to class us all as the same. The sweeping one size fits all message as given in the newspaper article that quoted you can also lead to unkind and hurtful comments and attitudes among the public at large - in some cases, as bad as race-hate and other types of discrimination.

The public is ill-educated about diabetes - which, I am sad to say, in far too many cases applies to HCPs as well.

I hope your staff actually draw your attention to this email.
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Viv 8)
 
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