grant32 said:I used to inject novorapid just prior to eating but was consistently high 2 hours after, usually mid teens. At 4 hours I was back to 6 or so and didn't go lower. So I believe I have carb counted correctly. I have experimented with injecting a greater amount of time before eating and have found for me about 30 mins before means I don't spike anywhere near as high 2 hours after.
Does anyone else do this type of thing?
artofmany said:It's definitely a case of matching what you eat.
When eating somthing like a pizza, for example, it's unlikely that your body will absorb the starch very quickly due to the fat content, and you might not eat the whole pizza, so I find it best to inject as I finish eating.
If I eat slow release carbs, I should probably delay the injection too, as I sometimes find myself hungry straight after eating in these cases.
The only time when I can reliably inject before eating is, controversially, when eating a dessert. Even though desserts tend to be high fat, the sugar generally counteracts the normal effect of fat. Also, when eating a regular lunch like a sandwich, crisps and a piece of fruit, I inject before and don't normally get any problems.
My last bit of advice: if switching from Lantus to Levemir, you may get odd BG readings for a bit as I've found the doses don't quite match up all the time, and they react differently to certain foods. Lantus, for instance, seems to tolerate beer better with me (I don't drink very much beer).
ono said:artofmany said:It's definitely a case of matching what you eat.
When eating somthing like a pizza, for example, it's unlikely that your body will absorb the starch very quickly due to the fat content, and you might not eat the whole pizza, so I find it best to inject as I finish eating.
If I eat slow release carbs, I should probably delay the injection too, as I sometimes find myself hungry straight after eating in these cases.
The only time when I can reliably inject before eating is, controversially, when eating a dessert. Even though desserts tend to be high fat, the sugar generally counteracts the normal effect of fat. Also, when eating a regular lunch like a sandwich, crisps and a piece of fruit, I inject before and don't normally get any problems.
My last bit of advice: if switching from Lantus to Levemir, you may get odd BG readings for a bit as I've found the doses don't quite match up all the time, and they react differently to certain foods. Lantus, for instance, seems to tolerate beer better with me (I don't drink very much beer).
Does that work for you, the pizza, or do you spike later on? if Inject right after pizza I will crash down, as the bulk of the spike comes as late as 4 or 5 hours after eating it, so I have to inject basically 20%insulin after finishing + remaining 80% 3 or 4 hours after eating (which I always find a terrifying leap of faith).
nmr1991 said:Every once in a while, I go out for pizza in the evening, I had already injected in the morning, I don't bring my insulin when I go out, and I come back, and forget about my insulin, realize that I feel all sluggish and need to go toilet more times than normal, I have high blood sugar usually between 16-24 mmol/l, then I take my novorapid and lantus at the same time (one after the other respectively). My depression is amplified when I have high blood sugar, start to think how pointless my life is.
carbmyenthusiasm said:ono said:artofmany said:It's definitely a case of matching what you eat.
When eating somthing like a pizza, for example, it's unlikely that your body will absorb the starch very quickly due to the fat content, and you might not eat the whole pizza, so I find it best to inject as I finish eating.
If I eat slow release carbs, I should probably delay the injection too, as I sometimes find myself hungry straight after eating in these cases.
The only time when I can reliably inject before eating is, controversially, when eating a dessert. Even though desserts tend to be high fat, the sugar generally counteracts the normal effect of fat. Also, when eating a regular lunch like a sandwich, crisps and a piece of fruit, I inject before and don't normally get any problems.
My last bit of advice: if switching from Lantus to Levemir, you may get odd BG readings for a bit as I've found the doses don't quite match up all the time, and they react differently to certain foods. Lantus, for instance, seems to tolerate beer better with me (I don't drink very much beer).
Does that work for you, the pizza, or do you spike later on? if Inject right after pizza I will crash down, as the bulk of the spike comes as late as 4 or 5 hours after eating it, so I have to inject basically 20%insulin after finishing + remaining 80% 3 or 4 hours after eating (which I always find a terrifying leap of faith).
The leap of faith is quite worrying at times, but I've come to know my body and only do it when I'm sure it's needed.
With a pizza, I'll take about 80% of the carb requirement when I eat (anything more, I can crash). 2 hours later I'll take about 70% of the carb requirement. Then 3-4 hours another 50% on faith. In the end I need about 2.5x the amount of stated carbs.
Those pizzas hit me long and hard.
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nmr1991 said:Every once in a while, I go out for pizza in the evening, I had already injected in the morning, I don't bring my insulin when I go out, and I come back, and forget about my insulin, realize that I feel all sluggish and need to go toilet more times than normal, I have high blood sugar usually between 16-24 mmol/l, then I take my novorapid and lantus at the same time (one after the other respectively). My depression is amplified when I have high blood sugar, start to think how pointless my life is.
Hi, I have just stumbled upon your post. I have the exact same issues with lentils. In fact just today I went down to 3.8 about 90 mins after having eaten lentils. In spite of injecting after the meal. Any tips?For me it also depends what I eat, with slower release carbs like lentils or porridge I can drop like a stone in the 2 hours after the meal, adn then come back up later.
Hi, I have just stumbled upon your post. I have the exact same issues with lentils. In fact just today I went down to 3.8 about 90 mins after having eaten lentils. In spite of injecting after the meal. Any tips?
That doesn't work if you are eating a bowl of lentil chilli for dinner, something the DAFNE course facilitators refused to recognise.I was told lentils were so low in gi not to count for them, try it and see
Too right Dave - Slow cooked lentil and bacon casserole - now that needs some bolussing, for me roughly two thirds of the amount for brown rice.That doesn't work if you are eating a bowl of lentil chilli for dinner, something the DAFNE course facilitators refused to recognise.
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