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Interesting article on obesity and insulin

Lots of long words :wideyed:

I'm going to have another double espresso, and then read it again :bookworm:
 
The phrase '....weight neutral at best' struck a cord with me. One in the eye for people who think (and sometimes appear intransigent) that non obese T2s are invariably undiagnosed/misdiagnosed LADA or T1.

Excellent piece, thank you.
 
Guzzler said:
The phrase '....weight neutral at best' struck a cord with me. One in the eye for people who think (and sometimes appear intransigent) that non obese T2s are invariably undiagnosed/misdiagnosed LADA or T1.

Excellent piece, thank you.
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I don't know how you made that interpretation. The phrase you quoted was referring to the effect on weight of exogenous insulin.
 
Mr_Pot said:
I don't know how you made that interpretation. The phrase you quoted was referring to the effect on weight of exogenous insulin.
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Whether exogenous or endogenous the result can be the same, meaning that there are outliers with both. That is my interpretation.
 
Great find @bulkbiker . It had me looking at the Medichecks Fasting Insulin Test again.

Whom did you use for yours, if you don't mind saying?
 
DCUKMod said:
Great find @bulkbiker . It had me looking at the Medichecks Fasting Insulin Test again.

Whom did you use for yours, if you don't mind saying?
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Medichecks was who I used.. I think they are the most reasonable.. (I did quite a lot of research!). If anyone can find it cheaper than £39 then please let me know.
 
As you said, an interesting piece. It is not breaking new ground itself, but it is reviewing current trends and so is a commentary article. I am impressed by the list of references at the end. What is more impressive IMHO is that I only recognise one paper by Robert Lustig mentioned, and no reliance on gurus or bloggers for supporting evidence. This is in my mind a strong positive for the article as serious work, and I am bookmarking it for return visits. Thank you BB this is a valuable gem.
 
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Oldvatr said:
As you said, an interesting piece. It is not breaking new ground itself, but it is reviewing current trends and so is a commentary article. I am inpressed by the list of references at the end. What is more impressive IMHO is that I only recognise one paper by Robert Lustig mentioned, and no reliance on gurus or bloggers for supporting evidence. This is in my mind a strong positive for the article as serious work, and I am bookmarking it for return visits. Thank you BB this is a valuable gem.
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Now I'll have to try to remember where I found it.. either facebook or twitter..
 
bulkbiker said:
Now I'll have to try to remember where I found it.. either facebook or twitter..
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The article itself is all you need,surely. The link is in your OP so can be bookmarked by any one of us. That is the important thing. The messenger boy is not important, unless you are intending to tip them. The society is based in Bristol, and it is their mag.
 
Oldvatr said:
The article itself is all you need,surely. The link is in your OP so can be bookmarked by any one of us. That is the important thing. The messenger boy is not important, unless you are intending to tip them. The society is based in Bristol, and it is their mag.
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No it's just that it wasn't me that found it originally I saw it on twitter or facebook.. I just provided the link.
You know I hate misrepresentation more than anything else so can't take the credit for some-one else's discovery.
 
Thank you bulkbiker. As someone only diagnosed T2 three months ago, I decided on a low carb, restricted intake as my personal management strategy before I found this site. Three months later my HbA1c has gone from 89 to 34 and my weight has dropped about 9kg. I don’t do high fat as I don’t like fat much but am slowly finding more things i can eat. Stopped my statin yesterday. I hope to maintain my decent results.
 
rosco 2 said:
Thank you bulkbiker. As someone only diagnosed T2 three months ago, I decided on a low carb, restricted intake as my personal management strategy before I found this site. Three months later my HbA1c has gone from 89 to 34 and my weight has dropped about 9kg. I don’t do high fat as I don’t like fat much but am slowly finding more things i can eat. Stopped my statin yesterday. I hope to maintain my decent results.
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Brilliant results and well done for taking control.
 
Thank you. I am pretty chuffed and my GP was gobsmacked.
 
bulkbiker said:
No it's just that it wasn't me that found it originally I saw it on twitter or facebook.. I just provided the link.
You know I hate misrepresentation more than anything else so can't take the credit for some-one else's discovery.
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This site is full of links that come from external sources. I know that Med / Pioppi is not your bag, so I am happy to thank you for disseminating this info for us all to share.
 
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