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Is 9.0 Too Much .?

Australiadiabetic2

Australiadiabetic2

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Type of diabetes
Type 2
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Tablets (oral)
well i just went to the gym done a 10 minute walk in the treadmill feel absolutely fabulous no symptoms nothing

Then i pricked my thumb and done a test it comes out as 9.0 .....mmmmmm do u think thats ok?

Its not bad is it ? I mean its pretty good isnt it ?
 
Have you been given any BG targets?
There are some guides here: https://www.diabetes.co.uk/diabetes_care/blood-sugar-level-ranges.html

You may find it useful to keep track of what affect different food and activities have on your BG.
For example, take a reading before the gym and one afterwards - has your BG gone up or down?
Or take a reading, eat your dinner and 2 hours later, take another one. Has your BG returned to your pre-meal value or gone up?

Bear in mind, if your BG has been high for some time, it may be better to lower it gradually and give your body time to adjust to "normality".
It has often been mention on this forum that managing diabetes is a marathon not a sprint.
 
Australiadiabetic2 said:
Thanks Helen, it should of been 7.8 to be normal
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no it is too high, but if you eat less than 150 grams of carbs in a day , most type 2 would be able to get normal numbers, the truely normal numbers in between meals are under 6 mmol, initially type 2 diabetics have much higher numbers, what most doctors avoid telling us is that it actually can be controlled by counting ones grams of carbs eaten in a day.. so my advice would be keep on excercising , but understand that the main road to a normal blood glucose and to avoiding all the adding diseases is to eat in a way that doesn´t raise blood glucose too much..

here in this scheme you can learn of the normal and diabetic numbers , note that only the green area is truely non-diabetic
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Well i admit I did eat a packet of sultanas a few hours ago :arghh:
Metmorfin doesnt seem to be doing much !!

Oh i really wish this disease would go away ! Its a pain the bum:facepalm:
 
Australiadiabetic2 said:
Well i admit I did eat a packet of sultanas a few hours ago :arghh:
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I know you love sultanas, and I do too, but if you want to get your blood sugars under control and avoid diabetic complications, you will need to cut sultanas down and probably out for at least a few months.

Dried fruit is smaller than fresh fruit but contains the same amount of carbs/sugars. A handful of grapes will be about a tablespoon of sultanas when dried. I call grapes sugar bombs.

I'm considering buying a food dehydrator so I can turn the healthy foods I love into dried snacks for taking with me instead of having to eat prepared snacks. I think dried berries will be yum.

Up to you, but if you want to eat sultanas every day then blood sugars of 9.0 aren't going to be a surprise.
 
Australiadiabetic2 said:
Metmorfin doesnt seem to be doing much !!

Oh i really wish this disease would go away ! Its a pain the bum:facepalm:
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Metformin can't alter the effects of eating large amounts of high carb foods. It can only reduce BG by about 1 point. And you're on a half dose, so your Metformin has basically reduced your post-sultanas BG from 9.5 to 9.0.

(EDIT: This is a figure I read several years ago and I can't remember where I read it. I was making the point that as far as I know, my overall BGs run (very) slightly lower than they would if I wasn't on Metformin. The actual amount of the difference wasn't the point of my post.)
 
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The 9.0 was probably not related to your exercise.
Diet really is the thing.
Exercise is good.... he wrote, just coming back from a swim.... the second this year :banghead: routine has not helped, been mostly walking.
:)
 
Jenny15 said:
Metformin can't alter the effects of eating large amounts of high carb foods. It can only reduce BG by about 1 point. And you're on a half dose, so your Metformin has basically reduced your post-sultanas BG from 9.5 to 9.0.
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Please can you give me a link to this information? I would be very interested to read research that shows a post meal spike could be reduced by 1 mmol/l as you describe. I was under the impression it has been shown to reduce the HbA1c by about 1% DCCT .

I was under the impression Metformin helps most with the liver dumps as it reduces the amount of glucose the liver produces, and not particularly with rises post meal? It can also help marginally with insulin resistance, but that takes time.
 
Bluetit1802 said:
Please can you give me a link to this information? I would be very interested to read research that shows a post meal spike could be reduced by 1 mmol/l as you describe. I was under the impression it has been shown to reduce the HbA1c by about 1% DCCT .

I was under the impression Metformin helps most with the liver dumps as it reduces the amount of glucose the liver produces, and not particularly with rises post meal? It can also help marginally with insulin resistance, but that takes time.
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Agreed.
 
Yes, as @Bluetit1802 says Metformin is not a medication that directly lowers BG

It is a medication that builds up slowly and works by reducing the amount of sugar your liver releases into your blood.and makes your body respond better to insulin. (reduces insulin resistance)

It does not reduce the level of BG already in the bloodstream at any given time.
 
Bluetit1802 said:
Please can you give me a link to this information? I would be very interested to read research that shows a post meal spike could be reduced by 1 mmol/l as you describe. I was under the impression it has been shown to reduce the HbA1c by about 1% DCCT .

I was under the impression Metformin helps most with the liver dumps as it reduces the amount of glucose the liver produces, and not particularly with rises post meal? It can also help marginally with insulin resistance, but that takes time.
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I don't remember where I read it, years ago. It wasn't as specific as a post meal spike, it was about BGs in general. The exact figure doesn't matter... we are discussing whether Metformin does anything at all and clearly you and I agree that it doesn't do much, and it certainly won't address eating lots of sultanas. I don't think anyone should be impressed with the idea of a reduction to 9.0. I do provide sources for claims I make that are important. When it's something like this and I don't remember the source, I view it as neither here nor there. I see people posting claims here every day without sources or any attempt to find a source or provide any context, so I no longer care so much about enforcing my own high standards in every post where it is really tangential to the point.
 
9.0 is not ideal, but it depends on the context, how does it compare of other blood sugars you've been getting recently, at that time? The answer probably is, from my perspective, as someone with type 1 diabetes, that next time you try that you could eat a few sultanas, but not as many.

So if you carry on gradually increasing your exercise, and reducing the carbs you should, hopefully, start to get blood sugars closer to normal.
 
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