Is bread evil?

[Spencer67]

"Eat bread and you'll wind up dead" i've heard. Gluten seems to be an obvious evil within the ingredient and it was even created by a bunch of monks. I struggle with bread, i love it, my favourite is white tiger bread, but i keep this to a minimum as a T1D and my usual staple diet consists of brown wholewheat / grain etc but is it bad for us? This stuff is harder to give up than meth have you tried to give up bread? If you have, what has been the reaction. I am trying to go gluten free and today i've noticed even the Prime Minister has given up bread. I want to go the low carb route but bread is my first stumbling block. Please share your experience in giving up the evil wheat treat and what you have replaced it with, if at all.

Mwwhhhhaaa.

 

[Pasha]

Gave up bread totally. Didnt make any replacement and that was more than two years ago. Even sit alongside my wife as she makes and eats toast with breakfast during the winter months.

In the beginning its not easy to give up but soon new habits are established , this takes about three weeks and then it becomes easier and easier.

 

[rowan]

I gave up bread 3 weeks ago when I realised even a small amount sends my levels sky high, same as wheat pasta. I tried gluton free bread, it was just as bad.
I've replaced it with low carb crackers or ryvita, but usually only have 2 ryvitas a day, or 4 crackers. Or more often now just a lump of cheese or (pickled) boiled egg if I just want a snack.

I can't just stick to once slice of bread if there's any in the house. You mentioned meth, well, treat this as an addiction, if you have a little you'll want more, so best to keep of it completely.

It is difficult but if you consider that your sight, your limbs, even your life could depend on giving it up then it puts it into perspectve, life would be even harder with no sight or an amputated limb than it is without bread

 

[Spencer67]

Gave up bread totally. Didnt make any replacement and that was more than two years ago. Even sit alongside my wife as she makes and eats toast with breakfast during the winter months.

In the beginning its not easy to give up but soon new habits are established , this takes about three weeks and then it becomes easier and easier.

All kudos to you. I had my first, what i considered 'low carb' breakfast the other day, bacon and eggs with tomatoes but my plate seemed so lonely without the bread, like it needed it, and i was doing something wrong to the tradition of the full English breakfast, must be a psychological thing i need to get over. Three weeks you say, sounds like a cold turkey rehab method.

 

[jay hay-char]

I wouldn't say that bread is evil, but I do think it needs to be eaten in moderation, and in the context of your overall carb intake. When I was diagnosed, I made an effort to considerably reduce my carbs, and probably now have between 70 -100 g per day in total. If I have a slice of Burgen soya and linseed loaf, I've had somewhere around 12-15 g of carbs, so a piece of toast for breakfast (with a boiled egg, maybe) probably means that I won't have any bread at lunchtime if I want my overall carb count to stay consistent; I'll just have a salad or a bowl of skinny soup, instead.

Different foodstuffs seem to affect people differently (remember: you are unique, just like everybody else ), so the advice to eat to your meter - commonly given on here - is sage and sensible. Some people regard bread as the Great Satan, and won't touch it at all; others, like me, are more relaxed. Pasha is correct about going cold turkey - it takes a few weeks to adjust to a lower carb intake, and you won't feel great for a while, but once you're past the initial adjustment, it will all become much easier, and if you up your fat intake to adjust for the loss of carbs, you will find that many things which are commonly regarded as forbidden - like a nice fry, for example - suddenly become allowable (so long as you skip the fried bread and hash browns )

HTH

 

[Spencer67]

I gave up bread 3 weeks ago when I realised even a small amount sends my levels sky high, same as wheat pasta. I tried gluton free bread, it was just as bad.

Yah i noticed without the bread my levels stay pretty within range but if i eat bread... boom, bg goes up like a rocket. yah i wanna keep my feet they get me about. You definitely say it as it is. Tx rowan.

 

[Clivethedrive]

Yah i noticed without the bread my levels stay pretty within range but if i eat bread... boom, bg goes up like a rocket. yah i wanna keep my feet they get me about. You definitely say it as it is. Tx rowan.

Spencer67, you could try an almond flour bread, there are several receipes on the forum in the food and diet section!

 

[CollieBoy]

Bread is not evil, it is an inanimate object and hence lacks the self awareness to have the attribute of evilness. Only huans are evil or berhaps higher creatures like apes or cetaceans .
However is bread is not good for me and i substitute nuts in my baking and wrap food in leves for sandwiches.

 

[Spencer67]

I wouldn't say that bread is evil, but I do think it needs to be eaten in moderation, and in the context of your overall carb intake. When I was diagnosed, I made an effort to considerably reduce my carbs, and probably now have between 70 -100 g per day in total. If I have a slice of Burgen soya and linseed loaf, I've had somewhere around 12-15 g of carbs, so a piece of toast for breakfast (with a boiled egg, maybe) probably means that I won't have any bread at lunchtime if I want my overall carb count to stay consistent; I'll just have a salad or a bowl of skinny soup, instead.

Different foodstuffs seem to affect people differently (remember: you are unique, just like everybody else ), so the advice to eat to your meter - commonly given on here - is sage and sensible. Some people regard bread as the Great Satan, and won't touch it at all; others, like me, are more relaxed. Pasha is correct about going cold turkey - it takes a few weeks to adjust to a lower carb intake, and you won't feel great for a while, but once you're past the initial adjustment, it will all become much easier, and if you up your fat intake to adjust for the loss of carbs, you will find that many things which are commonly regarded as forbidden - like a nice fry, for example - suddenly become allowable (so long as you skip the fried bread and hash browns )

HTH

Interesting tx for the reply. (Hash browns Nom Nom Nom) Can i ask what you have added to your diet that is high fat to replace the carb?

 

[jay hay-char]

People vary , but I probably eat more nuts, cheese, full fat yoghurts, avocados and the like than I used to. It's not that I never ate them in the past, but whereas in the old days I would have a shedload of carbs to fill me up, I now have lots of green veg and more consciously add things with natural fats in them. I still eat traditionally healthy stuff like oily fish, olive oil, lean meat (when I can afford it) and so forth but I don't have the massive guilt trip that I used to go through in the past when I have stuff with more fats in them, like cheaper cuts of meat, bacon, double cream in my coffee and so forth. All-meat sausages are very low carb, but look on the label: the more rusk in the filling, the higher the carb count. Sainsbury's "Taste the Difference" Toulouse sausages are excellent, for example, with about 1g of carb per banger

 

[Bluetit1802]

I eat bread in moderation, usually one slice a day of Hovis Wholemeal Seed Sensations. I chose this because it is a normal sized loaf, not one you need magnifying glasses to see, it is thick so makes good toast, and is jammed with seeds and fibre. Sometimes I eat half a slice twice a day. It does very little to my levels when eaten with butter and fats such as 2 eggs, or a salad with masses of mayonnaise/olive oil. However, more than one slice is out of the question completely. 14g carbs per slice

 

[rowan]

All-meat sausages are very low carb, but look on the label: the more rusk in the filling, the higher the carb count. Sainsbury's "Taste the Difference" Toulouse sausages are excellent, for example, with about 1g of carb per banger

They are only 80% meat. You can get 97% meat sausages in most places. Debbie And Andrew 6 Harrogate 97% Sausages are very nice

 

[Bluetit1802]

Black Farmers 97% sausages are also delicious. Tesco has their own brand, quite nice but not as big or as nice as the Black Farmers. Both have a trace of carbs, up to 1g per sausage.

 

[sanguine]

From being a total bread fiend at the beginning of 24 March last year, I looked at the issues, control BGs vs continue to feed my system unnecessary carbs, and just stopped eating it overnight (except for the very very occasional slice). No pangs, no looking back.

I've no idea if it's harder to give up than meth ...

 

[rowan]

From being a total bread fiend at the beginning of 24 March last year, I looked at the issues, control BGs vs continue to feed my system unnecessary carbs, and just stopped eating it overnight (except for the very very occasional slice). No pangs, no looking back.

I've no idea if it's harder to give up than meth ...

I found giving up bread is easier than giving up smoking was..

 

[noblehead]

No it's not evil, but as diabetics we have to be aware of the effects it has on our bg levels, I had two slices of rye bread with my lunch today.

 

[AnnieC]

I was never a big bread eater so I really don't miss it much. If I do have bread at all now it is Bergen Lindseed and Soya and only as a slice of toast with breakfast but not every day

 

[Kat100]

I have not given up bread , soya for me where possible ....a little most days ...or a small bread roll ...
There are choices to try ....if you choose to ...

 

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[cold ethyl]

I gave up bread completely initially ( I have gluten sensitivity issues too ) and have had years when I've not touched the stuff because of IBS. Now I have spelt bread - it's a tiny loaf and I cut it into thin slices and bag it up and freeze. Made by local artisan a baker I enquired what was in it and there's just wholemeal spelt flour and no additional sugar other than what starts the sourdough off. I can manage a slice toasted with butter and it has no discernible effect. I would love to be able to eat the quantities I ate before as it is the one thing I miss but my diabetes and my bowel are thanking me for the restraint,