Is Elevated LDL from a Ketogenic diet a Health Concern?

LittleGreyCat said:

@Bluetit1802
Fasting test (not specified by surgery, but I fast before the test anyway).

Trigs under 1.9 fasting (under 2.3 non fasting) - 1.59
HDL above 1.2 - 1.74
LDL under 3 - 4.59
Total/HDL ratio under 5 - 4.06
Non HDL under 4 - 5.32
Trigs/HDL ratio ideally under 0.87 - 0.91

So not fully matching the list (do you have a reference for it?). Thanks anyway.

The higher LDL skews two measures.

Increasing HDL slightly would fix all but the Non-HDL measure.

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BrianTheElder said:

Well, I would too, only I don't get triglycerides by default when I have a test. They just post me a blood form for a standard test with instructions to get a blood sample taken. It would mean a docs appointment to get it changed. On the other hand, Prof Sikaris did look at a number or ratios for trig estimation and concluded that TC/HDL was best. I get both of those from a standard test.

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BrianTheElder said:

Well, I would too, only I don't get triglycerides by default when I have a test. They just post me a blood form for a standard test with instructions to get a blood sample taken. It would mean a docs appointment to get it changed. On the other hand, Prof Sikaris did look at a number or ratios for trig estimation and concluded that TC/HDL was best. I get both of those from a standard test.

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ziggy_w said:

Hi @BrianTheElder,

If you want to know your trigs, you can calculate them yourself if you have numbers for total chol, HDL and LDL. @Bluetit1802 already posted a link to the hughcalc website: http://www.hughcalc.org/chol-si.php . If you enter your total, HDL and LDL, it will automatically calculate your trigs for you.

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Bluetit1802 said:

Just try ringing up to ask for a full lipid panel. No need to see a GP. Your nurse can authorise it - or the receptionist can ask the GP on your behalf. My receptionist did that when I rang to ask for some vitamin and mineral tests. GP just signed the form without even seeing me and they were included.

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Bluetit1802 said:

I don't have any links handy, but those lipid figures are from my lab reports and on-line records. I am female, so male targets may be different, and labs do vary. I got the ratios off the internet ages ago. The Hugh Calc website may help.
http://www.hughcalc.org/chol-si.php

All lipid tests used to be fasting, then NICE decided this was causing issues within surgeries because of the need for early morning blood taking, in turn causing long waiting lists. So surgeries no longer ask us to fast, but like you, I always do anyway.

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BrianTheElder said:

Thanks. Yes, I could do that, but since I already have the standard form at that point, it is just extra messing around.

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BrianTheElder said:

Thanks. Yes, I always fast anyway, and since I can get what I want from TC/HDL, I am happy. It's nice to see a trig number, but not worth a fuss as they are very variable.

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pdmjoker said:

Not sure you understood my question. The graph you posted is Trigs vs sdLDL amount. Sikaris indeed said Trigs are variable, so does that imply sdLDL is similarly variable just using the graph since they are closely related?

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