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Is low carb high fat ok if i need to lose weight

bootyful0

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Hi everyone. I am T2 diagnosed in Nov 14, i am not on any medication and so far my blood sugar levels are ok ,( according to my doc.) However she , the doc, said I need to loose weight. I have lost some doing a sort of LC low fat and calorie counting diet but recently my weight loss has stopped and im getting fed up. As a result my carb intake is increasing daily. I have already had 145g of carbs today alone. My cholesterol has also gone up but im not on any meds for this . I am hoping that someone can guide me as to whether it is ok to go on a LCHF diet without counting calories and still loose weight. If i eat full fat cheese/cream etc will it increase my cholesterol even more? Feel so confused. I don't have much weight to loose. In total i had 21 pounds to loose and so far i have lost 11 so half way there. I exercise every day ie walking or stair climbing at home. I have read the low carb guide but feel so worried about the high fat bit. Please help. Thank you in advance
 
I asked the very same question and everyone assures me that low carb high fat will not make you put on weight....it can actually make you lose it. You get your energy from the carbs so cutting them means that you have to get your energy from somewhere else.....that being the fat. If you look in the ''what have you eaten today'' thread you will see examples of what people eat. I have cut my carbs to less than 30 a day now ...sometimes less and am using butter to cook and eating full fat cheese and am still losing weight. There is a lot of info on here about LFHC diet....have a look around the forum and I am sure a lot of members will give you far more accurate information about it. Good luck with it :D
 
Hello @bootyful0 and welcome. You're halfway to your target weight, well done. I don't worry much about my overall cholesterol level and look at the breakdown figures instead. Do you know what yours are? And your blood sugar levels?
Many of us do take the plunge and cut out bread, pasta, root veg and rice and increase fats like olive oil, avocado and nuts, plus dairy fat-and-protein like cheese, butter & eggs. The plan is to use fat as energy instead of carbs. Everyone is different so it's your decision. But you're in good company here
 
Oh poor you. Don't worry too much.

Have you got a meter? And strips? These are vital.

Fat as such may raise your cholesterol but usually only the good part. Do you know the breakdown? You want HDL up and trigs down.

Fat will fill you up but not raise your bg. So it's easy to lose weight on LCHF.
 
Hello, I have always been a fan of the lowcarb diet, I have lost over 30 kg, and my father has lost 25 kg on it, and we have kept it of. However, the reason lowcarb works is that you get so satiated that you eat fewer calories than you need, without you becoming hungry. So it is still about the calories.

Stephan Guyenet is a Phd in neurobiology that works on how obesity affects bodyweightregulation in the brain. He has this blog,
http://wholehealthsource.blogspot.no/

Where he talks about health, but mostly obesity. If you read everything on this blog, and the comments you will become an expert on obesity and weightloss. He also have condensed everything he knows about weightloss into this short pdf file, which is densly referenced, and quite a heavy read, but if you read it, you will understand lots about obesity.


https://www.dansplan.com/assets/Ideal_Weight_Program_Scientific_Rational.pdf
 
I asked the very same question and everyone assures me that low carb high fat will not make you put on weight....it can actually make you lose it. You get your energy from the carbs so cutting them means that you have to get your energy from somewhere else.....that being the fat. If you look in the ''what have you eaten today'' thread you will see examples of what people eat. I have cut my carbs to less than 30 a day now ...sometimes less and am using butter to cook and eating full fat cheese and am still losing weight. There is a lot of info on here about LFHC diet....have a look around the forum and I am sure a lot of members will give you far more accurate information about it. Good luck with it :D
Thanks for that. it took me ages to post this question so im glad to hear that you asked the same thing. I took a look at what have you eaten today, its a great help. thank you so much for your reply. wish me luck x
 
Hi everyone. I am T2 diagnosed in Nov 14, i am not on any medication and so far my blood sugar levels are ok ,( according to my doc.) However she , the doc, said I need to loose weight. I have lost some doing a sort of LC low fat and calorie counting diet but recently my weight loss has stopped and im getting fed up. As a result my carb intake is increasing daily. I have already had 145g of carbs today alone. My cholesterol has also gone up but im not on any meds for this . I am hoping that someone can guide me as to whether it is ok to go on a LCHF diet without counting calories and still loose weight. If i eat full fat cheese/cream etc will it increase my cholesterol even more? Feel so confused. I don't have much weight to loose. In total i had 21 pounds to loose and so far i have lost 11 so half way there. I exercise every day ie walking or stair climbing at home. I have read the low carb guide but feel so worried about the high fat bit. Please help. Thank you in advance
If you think of it as full fat, then it doesn't sound as bad!
If you look at foods with full fat, like butter, cream, yoghurt etc. What's so bad about them?
 
Hello @bootyful0 and welcome. You're halfway to your target weight, well done. I don't worry much about my overall cholesterol level and look at the breakdown figures instead. Do you know what yours are? And your blood sugar levels?
Many of us do take the plunge and cut out bread, pasta, root veg and rice and increase fats like olive oil, avocado and nuts, plus dairy fat-and-protein like cheese, butter & eggs. The plan is to use fat as energy instead of carbs. Everyone is different so it's your decision. But you're in good company here
Hello @bootyful0 and welcome. You're halfway to your target weight, well done. I don't worry much about my overall cholesterol level and look at the breakdown figures instead. Do you know what yours are? And your blood sugar levels?
Many of us do take the plunge and cut out bread, pasta, root veg and rice and increase fats like olive oil, avocado and nuts, plus dairy fat-and-protein like cheese, butter & eggs. The plan is to use fat as energy instead of carbs. Everyone is different so it's your decision. But you're in good company here
Hi DeejayR, I will have to get my book out and look at my levels but the docs are happy with them. Im almost certain that im going to take the plunge and give it a go. I have already cut out pasta /rice etc. I guess the only way to tell is to give it a go and thats what im going to do. Thank you very much for your help x
 
Oh poor you. Don't worry too much.

Have you got a meter? And strips? These are vital.

Fat as such may raise your cholesterol but usually only the good part. Do you know the breakdown? You want HDL up and trigs down.

Fat will fill you up but not raise your bg. So it's easy to lose weight on LCHF.
Hi Toto, I picked up my metre and test strips today and did my first blood check before lunch, it was 5.7 like on the box, hope i did it right. From reading through the LCHF forum im pretty sure im going to give it a go. Just need to go shopping and get a few things. feel quite excited about it (i dont get out much) Anyhow thank you so much for your reply, its much appreciated. Thank you x
 
Hello, I have always been a fan of the lowcarb diet, I have lost over 30 kg, and my father has lost 25 kg on it, and we have kept it of. However, the reason lowcarb works is that you get so satiated that you eat fewer calories than you need, without you becoming hungry. So it is still about the calories.

Stephan Guyenet is a Phd in neurobiology that works on how obesity affects bodyweightregulation in the brain. He has this blog,
http://wholehealthsource.blogspot.no/

Where he talks about health, but mostly obesity. If you read everything on this blog, and the comments you will become an expert on obesity and weightloss. He also have condensed everything he knows about weightloss into this short pdf file, which is densly referenced, and quite a heavy read, but if you read it, you will understand lots about obesity.


https://www.dansplan.com/assets/Ideal_Weight_Program_Scientific_Rational.pdf
Oh thank you so much for the links. I will take a look. I have been looking through the LCHF success stories as well and they are really encouraging. Im glad to hear that you and your dad kept the weight off , that was the other question i was going to ask. I am definitely going to five this a go . Im so glad i posted the question because its given me back the drive and determination that i seem to have lost recently. thanks to everyone. x
 
@bootyful0

Hello and welcome to the forum :) Some very useful and interesting posts from members above. Here is some information we give to new members and I hope you will find it helpful. Carry on asking questions and members will reply.


BASIC INFORMATION FOR NEWLY DIAGNOSED DIABETICS

Diabetes is the general term to describe people who have blood that is sweeter than normal. A number of different types of diabetes exist.

A diagnosis of diabetes tends to be a big shock for most of us. It’s far from the end of the world though and on this forum you’ll find over 140,000 people who are demonstrating this.

On the forum we have found that with the number of new people being diagnosed with diabetes each day, sometimes the NHS is not being able to give all the advice it would perhaps like to deliver - particularly with regards to people with type 2 diabetes.

The role of carbohydrate

Carbohydrates are a factor in diabetes because they ultimately break down into sugar (glucose) within our blood. We then need enough insulin to either convert the blood sugar into energy for our body, or to store the blood sugar as body fat.

If the amount of carbohydrate we take in is more than our body’s own (or injected) insulin can cope with, then our blood sugar will rise.

The bad news

Research indicates that raised blood sugar levels over a period of years can lead to organ damage, commonly referred to as diabetic complications.

The good news

People on the forum here have shown that there is plenty of opportunity to keep blood sugar levels from going too high. It’s a daily task but it’s within our reach and it’s well worth the effort.

Controlling your carbs

The info below is primarily aimed at people with type 2 diabetes, however, it may also be of benefit for other types of diabetes as well.
There are two approaches to controlling your carbs:

  • Reduce your carbohydrate intake
  • Choose ‘better’ carbohydrates

Reduce your carbohydrates

A large number of people on this forum have chosen to reduce the amount of carbohydrates they eat as they have found this to be an effective way of improving (lowering) their blood sugar levels.

The carbohydrates which tend to have the most pronounced effect on blood sugar levels tend to be starchy carbohydrates such as rice, pasta, bread, potatoes and similar root vegetables, flour based products (pastry, cakes, biscuits, battered food etc) and certain fruits.

Choosing better carbohydrates

Another option is to replace ‘white carbohydrates’ (such as white bread, white rice, white flour etc) with whole grain varieties. The idea behind having whole grain varieties is that the carbohydrates get broken down slower than the white varieties –and these are said to have a lower glycaemic index.
http://www.diabetes.co.uk/food/diabetes-and-whole-grains.html

The low glycaemic index diet is often favoured by healthcare professionals but some people with diabetes find that low GI does not help their blood sugar enough and may wish to cut out these foods altogether.

Read more on carbohydrates and diabetes

Eating what works for you

Different people respond differently to different types of food. What works for one person may not work so well for another. The best way to see which foods are working for you is to test your blood sugar with a glucose meter.

To be able to see what effect a particular type of food or meal has on your blood sugar is to do a test before the meal and then test after the meal. A test 2 hours after the meal gives a good idea of how your body has reacted to the meal.

The blood sugar ranges recommended by NICE are as follows:

Blood glucose ranges for type 2 diabetes
  • Before meals: 4 to 7 mmol/l
  • 2 hours after meals: under 8.5 mmol/l
Blood glucose ranges for type 1 diabetes (adults)
  • Before meals: 4 to 7 mmol/l
  • 2 hours after meals: under 9 mmol/l
Blood glucose ranges for type 1 diabetes (children)
  • Before meals: 4 to 8 mmol/l
  • 2 hours after meals: under 10 mmol/l
However, those that are able to, may wish to keep blood sugar levels below the NICE after meal targets.

Access to blood glucose test strips

The NICE guidelines suggest that people newly diagnosed with type 2 diabetes should be offered:

  • structured education to every person and/or their carer at and around the time of diagnosis, with annual reinforcement and review
  • self-monitoring of plasma glucose to a person newly diagnosed with type 2 diabetes only as an integral part of his or her self-management education

Therefore both structured education and self-monitoring of blood glucose should be offered to people with type 2 diabetes. Read more on getting access to bloodglucose testing supplies.

You may also be interested to read questions to ask at a diabetic clinic

Note: This post has been edited from Sue/Ken's post to include up to date information.
 
Go for it @bootyful0 !

Have a read of the story of my first year on LCHF linked below, and ask any more questions - good luck!
 
@bootyful0

Hello and welcome to the forum :) Some very useful and interesting posts from members above. Here is some information we give to new members and I hope you will find it helpful. Carry on asking questions and members will reply.


BASIC INFORMATION FOR NEWLY DIAGNOSED DIABETICS

Diabetes is the general term to describe people who have blood that is sweeter than normal. A number of different types of diabetes exist.

A diagnosis of diabetes tends to be a big shock for most of us. It’s far from the end of the world though and on this forum you’ll find over 140,000 people who are demonstrating this.

On the forum we have found that with the number of new people being diagnosed with diabetes each day, sometimes the NHS is not being able to give all the advice it would perhaps like to deliver - particularly with regards to people with type 2 diabetes.

The role of carbohydrate

Carbohydrates are a factor in diabetes because they ultimately break down into sugar (glucose) within our blood. We then need enough insulin to either convert the blood sugar into energy for our body, or to store the blood sugar as body fat.

If the amount of carbohydrate we take in is more than our body’s own (or injected) insulin can cope with, then our blood sugar will rise.

The bad news

Research indicates that raised blood sugar levels over a period of years can lead to organ damage, commonly referred to as diabetic complications.

The good news

People on the forum here have shown that there is plenty of opportunity to keep blood sugar levels from going too high. It’s a daily task but it’s within our reach and it’s well worth the effort.

Controlling your carbs

The info below is primarily aimed at people with type 2 diabetes, however, it may also be of benefit for other types of diabetes as well.
There are two approaches to controlling your carbs:

  • Reduce your carbohydrate intake
  • Choose ‘better’ carbohydrates

Reduce your carbohydrates

A large number of people on this forum have chosen to reduce the amount of carbohydrates they eat as they have found this to be an effective way of improving (lowering) their blood sugar levels.

The carbohydrates which tend to have the most pronounced effect on blood sugar levels tend to be starchy carbohydrates such as rice, pasta, bread, potatoes and similar root vegetables, flour based products (pastry, cakes, biscuits, battered food etc) and certain fruits.

Choosing better carbohydrates

Another option is to replace ‘white carbohydrates’ (such as white bread, white rice, white flour etc) with whole grain varieties. The idea behind having whole grain varieties is that the carbohydrates get broken down slower than the white varieties –and these are said to have a lower glycaemic index.
http://www.diabetes.co.uk/food/diabetes-and-whole-grains.html

The low glycaemic index diet is often favoured by healthcare professionals but some people with diabetes find that low GI does not help their blood sugar enough and may wish to cut out these foods altogether.

Read more on carbohydrates and diabetes

Eating what works for you

Different people respond differently to different types of food. What works for one person may not work so well for another. The best way to see which foods are working for you is to test your blood sugar with a glucose meter.

To be able to see what effect a particular type of food or meal has on your blood sugar is to do a test before the meal and then test after the meal. A test 2 hours after the meal gives a good idea of how your body has reacted to the meal.

The blood sugar ranges recommended by NICE are as follows:

Blood glucose ranges for type 2 diabetes
  • Before meals: 4 to 7 mmol/l
  • 2 hours after meals: under 8.5 mmol/l
Blood glucose ranges for type 1 diabetes (adults)
  • Before meals: 4 to 7 mmol/l
  • 2 hours after meals: under 9 mmol/l
Blood glucose ranges for type 1 diabetes (children)
  • Before meals: 4 to 8 mmol/l
  • 2 hours after meals: under 10 mmol/l
However, those that are able to, may wish to keep blood sugar levels below the NICE after meal targets.

Access to blood glucose test strips

The NICE guidelines suggest that people newly diagnosed with type 2 diabetes should be offered:

  • structured education to every person and/or their carer at and around the time of diagnosis, with annual reinforcement and review
  • self-monitoring of plasma glucose to a person newly diagnosed with type 2 diabetes only as an integral part of his or her self-management education

Therefore both structured education and self-monitoring of blood glucose should be offered to people with type 2 diabetes. Read more on getting access to bloodglucose testing supplies.

You may also be interested to read questions to ask at a diabetic clinic

Note: This post has been edited from Sue/Ken's post to include up to date information.
Hi Daisy1 thank you for the info will read through. I'm on day one of my LCHF as we speak. thanks again x
 
Go for it @bootyful0 !

Have a read of the story of my first year on LCHF linked below, and ask any more questions - good luck!
Will do Rod, I think i will try for 50g carbs as you have done and see how i go. Thanks for the link it going to be very helpful. thanks again x
 
If you think of it as full fat, then it doesn't sound as bad!
If you look at foods with full fat, like butter, cream, yoghurt etc. What's so bad about them?
Full fat! Love that. Full fat everything for me. Butter actually reduces cholesterol I believe, although these days having lost the bread I hardly use butter at all. I do use coconut oil for some of my cooking, and of course lard - a nice Polish one that does not 'taste'
 
Full fat! Love that. Full fat everything for me. Butter actually reduces cholesterol I believe, although these days having lost the bread I hardly use butter at all. I do use coconut oil for some of my cooking, and of course lard - a nice Polish one that does not 'taste'
Hi putterman, Sounds good and i see you have kept off meds and have lost weight too. I hope thats going to be me in a few months time. x
 
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