When diagnosed last June with 61 the nurse practitioner said he'd like around 50 ideally, when I commented why not just "get it lower" he looked at me like I was stupid! My dn is thrilled at my change and when I was edgy about possible raised hba1c non-meds she seemed to think a slight rise was fine- but I didn't, if my next is more than 39 I will requesting meds again as I DO NOT want diabetic levels, even controlled ones! Wish they could see that point!