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Is This DP?

hale710

hale710

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Type of diabetes
Type 1
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I had thought that dawn phenomenon was something that happened before you woke up, but I seem to get a rise in the hour after I get up. For example, today:

10pm bed BG 5.3, ate small snack

6am got up BG 6.9.
7am arrive at work, BG 8.6

So is that included in the dawn phenomenon heading too?

I know the general solution is get a pump, but I'm in the honeymoon period so I'm not able. And under NHS Scotland it appears it's a 2-3 year wait anyway so I've already registered an interest!

I generally don't drop overnight so I know I'm not going low, been through the 3am checks etc and stay within 1mmol/l other side. I don't want to inject when I get up without eating as I'm driving which I find at every other time of day lowers my BG. And god knows I don't want to eat at 6am! It's bad enough at 7 haha

So my understanding is..... No solution. Just suck it up and get on with it?
 
You didnt mention breakfast! If you missed breakfast could it just be a natural release of glycogen from your muscles and liver to fuel the energy required to get you up and off to work in the morning?

Just at thought :)
 
Sorry should have said! I eat breakfast when I arrive at work around 7am, hence I sometimes do the 2nd test at that time and could tell there is a rise. I just can't stomach food any earlier than that.

I'm in the honeymoon period and my consultant wants me to skip insulin with breakfast as I "only" rise to about 11 max. I'm not comfortable with that level so I inject just 1 unit to keep me down, breakfast is porridge at roughly 40g carb. 1 unit keeps me to about 7mmol/l by lunch time.

But now I feel my 1 unit is actually counteracting the DP rather than the breakfast!
 
Sid Bonkers said:
You didnt mention breakfast! If you missed breakfast could it just be a natural release of glycogen from your muscles and liver to fuel the energy required to get you up and off to work in the morning?

Just at thought :)
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My thoughts entirely, if I don't eat breakfast within an hour of waking (I'm always up by 6am) my blood glucose starts to climb...hence why I eat breakfast as soon as I wake, difficult for you hale if you don't like eating breakfast early :(

DP doesn't seem to hit me till 7 am, not often I sleep in but if I sleep after this time my bg is always up upon waking.
 
Yes I never sleep much later than 6, even at weekends, so I haven't noticed a rise before waking but I guess that could come later if I slept later.

Hmmmm it's difficult to know which way to turn with this then! The rise isnt exceptionally large......yet. I'm assuming the work my pancreas IS doing is preventing it going crazy so far.

To eat breakfast at home I'd have to get up even earlier, around half 5. At 23 that was considered time to get IN to bed not that long ago, not get out of it!

I guess this is just "one of those things"
 
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