Is this Gliclazide?

SMR1

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Hi, I have been on 40mg Gliclazide once a day since 23rd March 2019 and have very few left to take. I ache as though I have flu but I know that I do not. Is this a side effect that will hopefully cease once course of medication has been completed. I'm T2, recently diagnosed 20th March, also on Metformin 500mg three times per day since then. Is this normal or do I need to seek help?
Mark
 

lovinglife

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I never experienced this on gliclizide and I took it for 9 years, you are very newly diagnosed so it may just be your body adjusting.

A little bit more info would be helpful for others to give you advice, are you testing if so what are your numbers like? What was your Hba1c at diagnosis? What kind of things are you eating?

I don't know if you've seen @daisy1 info for newbies so I have tagged her - have a read has some great advice and info

Finally I think you may be a bit confused about gliclizide- it isn't a "course" of medication and your cured like antibiotics - it's a continuing treatment that helps with blood sugar control. That isn't to say you have to take it forever - I'm proof of that as after early 10 years I have been able to drop it with the support of my GP

The biggest weapon in your arsenal as a T2 is your diet and your food choices, many if not all of us with T2 on this forum eat some form of low carb diet with astounding results, have a good read round the forum including the success stories to see how many people have turned it around :)
 
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@SMR1
Hello Mark and welcome to the Forum :) Here is the Basic Information we give to new members and I hope you will find it interesting and helpful.


BASIC INFORMATION FOR NEW MEMBERS

Diabetes is the general term to describe people who have blood that is sweeter than normal. A number of different types of diabetes exist.

A diagnosis of diabetes tends to be a big shock for most of us. It’s far from the end of the world though and on this forum you'll find well over 220,000 people who are demonstrating this.

On the forum we have found that with the number of new people being diagnosed with diabetes each day, sometimes the NHS is not being able to give all the advice it would perhaps like to deliver - particularly with regards to people with type 2 diabetes.

The role of carbohydrate

Carbohydrates are a factor in diabetes because they ultimately break down into sugar (glucose) within our blood. We then need enough insulin to either convert the blood sugar into energy for our body, or to store the blood sugar as body fat.

If the amount of carbohydrate we take in is more than our body’s own (or injected) insulin can cope with, then our blood sugar will rise.

The bad news

Research indicates that raised blood sugar levels over a period of years can lead to organ damage, commonly referred to as diabetic complications.

The good news

People on the forum here have shown that there is plenty of opportunity to keep blood sugar levels from going too high. It’s a daily task but it’s within our reach and it’s well worth the effort.

Controlling your carbs

The info below is primarily aimed at people with type 2 diabetes, however, it may also be of benefit for other types of diabetes as well.

There are two approaches to controlling your carbs:

  • Reduce your carbohydrate intake
  • Choose ‘better’ carbohydrates
Reduce your carbohydrates

A large number of people on this forum have chosen to reduce the amount of carbohydrates they eat as they have found this to be an effective way of improving (lowering) their blood sugar levels.

The carbohydrates which tend to have the most pronounced effect on blood sugar levels tend to be starchy carbohydrates such as rice, pasta, bread, potatoes and similar root vegetables, flour based products (pastry, cakes, biscuits, battered food etc) and certain fruits.

Choosing better carbohydrates

The low glycaemic index diet is often favoured by healthcare professionals but some people with diabetes find that low GI does not help their blood sugar enough and may wish to cut out these foods altogether.

Read more on carbohydrates and diabetes.

Over 145,000 people have taken part in the Low Carb Program - a 10 week structured education course that is helping people lose weight and reduce medication dependency by explaining the science behind carbs, insulin and GI.

Eating what works for you

Different people respond differently to different types of food. What works for one person may not work so well for another. The best way to see which foods are working for you is to test your blood sugar with a glucose meter.

To be able to see what effect a particular type of food or meal has on your blood sugar is to do a test before the meal and then test after the meal. A test 2 hours after the meal gives a good idea of how your body has reacted to the meal.

The blood sugar ranges recommended by NICE are as follows:

Blood glucose ranges for type 2 diabetes
  • Before meals: 4 to 7 mmol/l
  • 2 hours after meals: under 8.5 mmol/l
Blood glucose ranges for type 1 diabetes (adults)
  • Before meals: 4 to 7 mmol/l
  • 2 hours after meals: under 9 mmol/l
Blood glucose ranges for type 1 diabetes (children)
  • Before meals: 4 to 8 mmol/l
  • 2 hours after meals: under 10 mmol/l
However, those that are able to, may wish to keep blood sugar levels below the NICE after meal targets.

Access to blood glucose test strips

The NICE guidelines suggest that people newly diagnosed with type 2 diabetes should be offered:

  • structured education to every person and/or their carer at and around the time of diagnosis, with annual reinforcement and review
  • self-monitoring of plasma glucose to a person newly diagnosed with type 2 diabetes only as an integral part of his or her self-management education

Therefore both structured education and self-monitoring of blood glucose should be offered to people with type 2 diabetes. Read more on getting access to blood glucose testing supplies.

You may also be interested to read questions to ask at a diabetic clinic.

Note: This post has been edited from Sue/Ken's post to include up to date information.
 

SMR1

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I never experienced this on gliclizide and I took it for 9 years, you are very newly diagnosed so it may just be your body adjusting.

A little bit more info would be helpful for others to give you advice, are you testing if so what are your numbers like? What was your Hba1c at diagnosis? What kind of things are you eating?

I don't know if you've seen @daisy1 info for newbies so I have tagged her - have a read has some great advice and info

Finally I think you may be a bit confused about gliclizide- it isn't a "course" of medication and your cured like antibiotics - it's a continuing treatment that helps with blood sugar control. That isn't to say you have to take it forever - I'm proof of that as after early 10 years I have been able to drop it with the support of my GP

The biggest weapon in your arsenal as a T2 is your diet and your food choices, many if not all of us with T2 on this forum eat some form of low carb diet with astounding results, have a good read round the forum including the success stories to see how many people have turned it around :)
Hi Lovinglife,
here is a little more info for you when dignosed T2
HBA1c was a huge 158.
Blood sugars started at 17.3mmol/L and now run between 8.5mmol/L and 5mmol/L. (before meals)
My surgerys Clinical Pharmist says i can come off the 40mg Gliclazide once packet has been completed, she prescribed them for me.
I'm eating quit a lot of fish, chicken and greens. Very little fruit and drinking plenty of water and avoiding white bread, pasta, potatoes and plain white rice. Probably much more important are the thinks i used to eat but don't now.
fizzy drinks
Fruit juice
Soft chewy sweets
ice creams
biscuits (by the packet).
I concour that you are what you eat in many ways but all that junk is out of bounds for me from now!
Regards,
Mark
 

SMR1

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Hi Daisy1,
thank you for this information I shall have to sit down and read it all later when I get home from work, so much to take in and links to follow? once again thank you, Mark.
 

lovinglife

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Looks good :), I have never heard of being only prescribed gliclizide for a short time, it may be that your HCP wanted to get your numbers down quickly and go from there.
 

SMR1

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Hi lovinglife,
yes numbers tumbled down due to medication and life style changes by me needed to adjust to life without sugar and carbs. I'm using th "My Sugar" app on my phone and it estimates that HBA1c is now around the 55 mark which is still high but much better than where i started from. I picked up compresion socks yesterday and my legs feel much improved. I guess once a T2 always a T2 and I shall have to consider what i eat carefully in the future! Regards, Mark.
 
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lovinglife

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You may find once you stop the gliclizide your numbers could rise again as gliclizide works immediately to make your pancreas release insulin to work on what you've eaten so you may have to tweak things again slightly- well done on the lifestyle changes :)