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is this high?

squid101

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Type of diabetes
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I am new...hi!

Not been feeling very well for a couple of months. Symptoms suggested possible diabetes.

Did two fasting blood glucose tests to find out whats what. Getting a reading of 10 mmol/l on Sunday and now today a reading of 12 mmol/l.

Guidance notes with the kit suggest that i should see a GP as normal range is 4-6. Just called in to make appointment and a nurse said "nothing wrong with that, but you can see GP tomorrow as there is no rush you have been like this for months anyway".

Any comments? Should i go to GP or not bother them?

Tah
 
Hi @squid101 101

Yes they are high definitely.
I suggest you see your gp asap.
I will tag along @daisy1 who will give you some more info
Since you are not officially diagnosed, I would get that done first.
All the best.
 
Thanks for that brettza. I have all the classic symptoms its crazy, and i have just pushed it all aside...no time blah blah blah!. i just wanted to see what others thought as the nurse, who didnt even see me or give me more than 1 min on the phone could suggest otherwise.

GP tomorrow at 9.00 but to be honest i hate going to the GP.
 
I am sure no one likes going to them, I had been to gp only 4 or 5 times all my life before being diagnosed with Diabetes and now I have to see him more often.
When you tested did you wash your hands properly as that can give you a rouge reading, I would wash my hands with soap and water lukewarm if possible and then dry them off well with a clean towel and test again.
Also do a few test post meal at 1 and 2 hours and see what the readings are like.
 
I know the GP's do a fab job but i cant say i feel like an educated adult when sitting in front of one they always make me feel like a silly child.

I did wash and dry my hands yes. The pack i bought was two tests so i just did them both as fasting but with a couple of days in between. I could nip down the road and get another couple and check before and after food too. The helpful nurse just told me to bring in a sample? So i take it they dip test which is less effective (or thats what i was lead to believe) also she never said first sample, no eat, no drink. She wasnt great!
 
@squid101

Hello and welcome to the forum :)

I, like the others, say go to see your GP tomorrow. Here, for your information, is the advice we give to new members and I hope you will find it useful. Come back and ask questions if you need to and let us know how things are going.


BASIC INFORMATION FOR NEWLY DIAGNOSED DIABETICS

Diabetes is the general term to describe people who have blood that is sweeter than normal. A number of different types of diabetes exist.

A diagnosis of diabetes tends to be a big shock for most of us. It’s far from the end of the world though and on this forum you’ll find over 140,000 people who are demonstrating this.

On the forum we have found that with the number of new people being diagnosed with diabetes each day, sometimes the NHS is not being able to give all the advice it would perhaps like to deliver - particularly with regards to people with type 2 diabetes.

The role of carbohydrate

Carbohydrates are a factor in diabetes because they ultimately break down into sugar (glucose) within our blood. We then need enough insulin to either convert the blood sugar into energy for our body, or to store the blood sugar as body fat.

If the amount of carbohydrate we take in is more than our body’s own (or injected) insulin can cope with, then our blood sugar will rise.

The bad news

Research indicates that raised blood sugar levels over a period of years can lead to organ damage, commonly referred to as diabetic complications.

The good news

People on the forum here have shown that there is plenty of opportunity to keep blood sugar levels from going too high. It’s a daily task but it’s within our reach and it’s well worth the effort.

Controlling your carbs

The info below is primarily aimed at people with type 2 diabetes, however, it may also be of benefit for other types of diabetes as well.
There are two approaches to controlling your carbs:

  • Reduce your carbohydrate intake
  • Choose ‘better’ carbohydrates

Reduce your carbohydrates

A large number of people on this forum have chosen to reduce the amount of carbohydrates they eat as they have found this to be an effective way of improving (lowering) their blood sugar levels.

The carbohydrates which tend to have the most pronounced effect on blood sugar levels tend to be starchy carbohydrates such as rice, pasta, bread, potatoes and similar root vegetables, flour based products (pastry, cakes, biscuits, battered food etc) and certain fruits.

Choosing better carbohydrates

Another option is to replace ‘white carbohydrates’ (such as white bread, white rice, white flour etc) with whole grain varieties. The idea behind having whole grain varieties is that the carbohydrates get broken down slower than the white varieties –and these are said to have a lower glycaemic index.
http://www.diabetes.co.uk/food/diabetes-and-whole-grains.html

The low glycaemic index diet is often favoured by healthcare professionals but some people with diabetes find that low GI does not help their blood sugar enough and may wish to cut out these foods altogether.

Read more on carbohydrates and diabetes

Eating what works for you

Different people respond differently to different types of food. What works for one person may not work so well for another. The best way to see which foods are working for you is to test your blood sugar with a glucose meter.

To be able to see what effect a particular type of food or meal has on your blood sugar is to do a test before the meal and then test after the meal. A test 2 hours after the meal gives a good idea of how your body has reacted to the meal.

The blood sugar ranges recommended by NICE are as follows:

Blood glucose ranges for type 2 diabetes
  • Before meals: 4 to 7 mmol/l
  • 2 hours after meals: under 8.5 mmol/l
Blood glucose ranges for type 1 diabetes (adults)
  • Before meals: 4 to 7 mmol/l
  • 2 hours after meals: under 9 mmol/l
Blood glucose ranges for type 1 diabetes (children)
  • Before meals: 4 to 8 mmol/l
  • 2 hours after meals: under 10 mmol/l
However, those that are able to, may wish to keep blood sugar levels below the NICE after meal targets.

Access to blood glucose test strips

The NICE guidelines suggest that people newly diagnosed with type 2 diabetes should be offered:

  • structured education to every person and/or their carer at and around the time of diagnosis, with annual reinforcement and review
  • self-monitoring of plasma glucose to a person newly diagnosed with type 2 diabetes only as an integral part of his or her self-management education

Therefore both structured education and self-monitoring of blood glucose should be offered to people with type 2 diabetes. Read more on getting access to bloodglucose testing supplies.

You may also be interested to read questions to ask at a diabetic clinic

Note: This post has been edited from Sue/Ken's post to include up to date information.
 
Thats NHS for you.
Monday is long time still, I would just take an urgent appointment and tell that you are concerned, monday is always the next option but why not just try to get an urgent one.
 
Yes, see the GP as soon as you can as those numbers are high but not dangerous yet. Testing 2 hours after a typical meal is better than a fasting test but I guess you don't yet have your own meter. I suspect you will be diagnosed and will then need a meter anyway which the NHS won't provide if you are a T2. My diabetes GP diagnosed me with a urine stick (!) but I did have the complete set of symptoms which we discussed.
 
I just went and bought a meter. I also have the full set of symptoms, when i looked into it it all became clear. I have just eaten and will retest 2 hours later. It cant do any harm to test. I feel really rough today. I should be at work but i just dont feel well. I havent felt well for months but dragged my sorry ass into the office!
 
I just went and bought a meter. I also have the full set of symptoms, when i looked into it it all became clear. I have just eaten and will retest 2 hours later. It cant do any harm to test. I feel really rough today. I should be at work but i just dont feel well. I havent felt well for months but dragged my sorry ass into the office!
Hope you start to feel better soon!
P.S. no need to take the donkey to the office, he/she 'll be happier in the stall or field (sorry)
 
Hope all goes well for you on Monday, I take it you haven't had a diagnosis and whilst that isn't excessively high it is obviously making you feel unwell, it astounds me when I hear some of the reactions/advice people get these days, I'm a nurse myself, work in the renal field and see what the end result of uncontrolled diabetes can do, so when I see people saying silly things like oh that isn't high etc I could scream.My advice would be to continue to monitor your sugars and if they go higher please seek medical advice sooner than the Monday.
 
Thanks for you kind words there orchid5 (and everyone else).

Off to GP tomorrow morning, i dont want to. Had a bit of an interesting day. I dont feel well generally and have all the classic symptoms. Not diagnosed and its looking like it might be questionable.

My average during the day after eating, is only between 6-7.2 which i gather is normal. So this makes me wonder why two fasting first results were at 10. Could have been that the tests were not as accurate as they could have been (Boots two pack tests) i dont think they would sell them if they were so out of whack though, but i suspect there might be some accuracy issues there. With the symptoms though, i wonder if anyone could explain the reading of 10 on two different days (fasting for 12 hours).

I do feel rubbish, buts its almost like i perk up by the end of the day. Then spend the nights sweating, itching, drinking, peeing and getting cramp - end result - shattered squid!
 
Squid101, I had a similar experience three months ago. It really upset me. The next day, I began searching for information online because I was really worried. Like you, I took this very seriously. Doing so much better now.

It's the "unknowns" that are the hardest to deal with for me. It gets easier as you get more information. One treatment option is the low carb (LCHF) diet. This interview provided me hope and encouragement...

More information can be found here... http://www.dietdoctor.com/lchf

Keep us posted on hour you're doing. :)
 
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Squid101, your readings are in line with diabetes or pre-diabetes. You'll know more after you get the "official" labwork done. The good news is that if you make and maintain needed lifestyle changes now, you'll be able to head off many if not all of the complications of diabetes. If you do have diabetes, and you'd like to read one book, Blood Sugar 101: What They Don't Tell You About Diabetes (updated 2012) by Jenny Ruhl remains my favorite and I have a stack of books two feet high.

The most important readings are fasting (upon awakening) and 2-hours post breakfast, lunch, and dinner. Keep testing. :)
 
morning all. Just updating. Tested just now upon waking and i have a nice healthy 4.5. I have to see the gp at 9 but i feel confident that its not diabetes which is a huge blessing.

Maybe i just feel unwell because i am feeling unwell rather than actually being unwell.. and for no other reason!
 
Not being diabetic would be my personal choice. If questions come up again, the book I mentioned above will answer most of your questions. Hope all your news is good news this week. :)
 
Hi squid, fingers crossed for you, hope all went well at the GP's.
 
4.5 is absolutely normal. Sometimes if you are not feeling well the bg's go up to fuel your body and keep energy levels up. Hoping you to come back with positive good news.
 
Hi all. Firstly, thanks for your support it was very much appreciated. I had a good visit at the GP's and i am exceptionally pleased to say i am all good! Well not actually all good but thankful for the fact that its not diabetes. In the short time that i was worrying about it, and in the back of my head hoping i had just found the answer to a pressing question, it made me appreciate the difficulties those of you face with the disease. I wish you all well.

I am currently experiencing a range of problems, and this has been ongoing for about 18 months but i have been putting of getting anything done until 6 weeks ago when my husband asked me to get it seen too. In response to that i am waiting for a specialists appointment at our local hospital. What i am experiencing at the moment is likely to be linked, though i know its not diabetes, i also know its not menopause, which is all good. I just keep my fingers and toes crossed that its something that can be dealt with easily.

Thanks all :)
 
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