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flonvic said:
Fbg on waking 8.5.2 hrs after porridge,yogurt and fruit 8.0. 2 hrs later(pre dinner)5.6.is this normal?
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Why not just leave out the fruit, or, alternatively reduce the amount of porridge or both? Don't forget the fruite juice as well. You don't say how much of each you have. It all contains sugar/cardbs and therefore it will affect your blood glucose levels.
 
HarveyD said:
Why not just leave out the fruit, or, alternatively reduce the amount of porridge or both? Don't forget the fruite juice as well. You don't say how much of each you have. It all contains sugar/cardbs and therefore it will affect your blood glucose levels.
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This morning fbg 6.5.Tested 2 hrs later before b/f 9.9.had b/f,tested 2 hrs after 9.8. Good or bad?
 
I would say not too good. Have you thought about talking to the professionals, a dietician perhaps? They will give give you the expert advice youv probably need. There's nothing wrong with the opinions of us on here but we're all different, what suits one doesn't suit another.
A professional view might be what you need.
 
flonvic said:
This morning fbg 6.5.Tested 2 hrs later before b/f 9.9.had b/f,tested 2 hrs after 9.8. Good or bad?
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Honestly it’s hard to tell. You undoubtedly have dawn phenomenon going on shown by the rise between waking and breakfast 2 hrs later. This is usually a result of some significant insulin resistance and the only way to address that is to lower glucose levels across the day and demand less insulin throughout the day as a result and it takes time (months to years not days).

The fact that you are essentially at the same level two hours later means that breakfast didn’t take you higher still so it looks good on the face of it. But without that breakfast would you have returned back to the morning rising levels more than 3mmol less? If so it means breakfast actually did raise you and cancelled out the drop that would have occurred otherwise. If not the breakfast was ok and it’s all about the dawn phenomenon So more experimenting needed to understand more fully what’s happening

What was breakfast today?
can you try a much lower carb breakfast and see if there is a difference.
can you try a few days of skipping breakfast to see what happens

some of us find dawn phenomenon gets stopped in its tracks by an early carb free item. Kind of like a message to the liver you are up and awake and dont need it’s help feeding yourself. A hard boiled egg or a small lump of cheese or a small piece of fish or meat maybe soon after rising. Then monitor to see what happens after that mini early breakfast.

Whats happening the rest of the day? Are you seeing big rises after lunch and dinner? What sort of levels are you at after these meals? The effect of them can run over into the next day.
 
flonvic said:
I think it looks ok.Dinner is usually a sandwich.( 1 slice) but just had ham,cottage cheese and cucumber.i am happy that it didnt rise a lot.thanks.
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Fantastic, looks like you're getting the hang of it, and no it didn't rise at all, a difference of just 0.5 is basically the same level, well done.
 
flonvic said:
I dont think i will ever get the hang of it but I am trying.Well thats what hubby says!!
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Ah but you are getting the hang of it. You basically had the sandwich (contents) without the bread to hold it together. I do that a fair bit and just increase the amounts of the good stuff that usually goes in the middle and add a fork.
 
So this morning I decided to do the porridge test again.Fbg 6.5. Pre b/f 8.8.As rachox suggested,tested + 1hr.12.6.tested again+1hr down to 6.9.Views please?
 
My view is that I wouldn't eat anything that caused such a large spike, your pancreas would have been working overtime to produce enough insulin.
Your insulin levels are probably still elevated, high insulin = fat storage and worsening insulin resistance.
You seem reluctant to give up on your porridge, and that's fine if for some reason you can't live without it.
But no matter how often you test it, there will still be the same amount of carbs in it.
Try cutting down on the amount, or less oats and add something lower carb to it like flax seed or maybe coconut flakes
You could even have it later in the day when our insulin works a little better, as a desert for example
 
catinahat said:
My view is that I wouldn't eat anything that caused such a large spike, your pancreas would have been working overtime to produce enough insulin.
Your insulin levels are probably still elevated, high insulin = fat storage and worsening insulin resistance.
You seem reluctant to give up on your porridge, and that's fine if for some reason you can't live without it.
But no matter how often you test it, there will still be the same amount of carbs in it.
Try cutting down on the amount, or less oats and add something lower carb to it like flax seed or maybe coconut flakes
You could even have it later in the day when our insulin works a little better, as a desert for example
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Could i use ground almonds instead of porridge?
 
flonvic said:
Could i use ground almonds instead of porridge?
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I really wouldn't know, I'll tag @Rachox for you she will probably know.
It's not the sort of thing I would eat, if I eat breakfast it is always human food, not something I'd feed to a rabbit, bacon, eggs, sausages, that would be my choice.
 
catinahat said:
I really wouldn't know, I'll tag @Rachox for you she will probably know.
It's not the sort of thing I would eat, if I eat breakfast it is always human food, not something I'd feed to a rabbit, bacon, eggs, sausages, that would be my choice.
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If you google “porridge alternatives keto“ or “porridge alternatives low carb” you’ll get loads of recipe ideas. Often they are almond or coconut flour based or using chia seeds rather than oats. Same works for any meal/food item.
 
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