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Is type 2 reversible with Prof Roy Taylor

I think I can go back far enough to determine the point in my life that I started my downward spiral. When I was in my late teens and early 20s I used to fence, dive, canoe, sail and cycle 60 miles every day. To support this I used to eat abut 4 chocolate bars per day just because I needed the calories. When I bought a car and got married all this exercise dwindled but the chocolate didnt as I was addicted to the sweetness and the fat. I have never really been able to give them up ntil this year after diagnosis. Now just the smel of them turns my nose.
 
Andrew Colvin said:
I think I can go back far enough to determine the point in my life that I started my downward spiral. When I was in my late teens and early 20s I used to fence, dive, canoe, sail and cycle 60 miles every day. To support this I used to eat abut 4 chocolate bars per day just because I needed the calories. When I bought a car and got married all this exercise dwindled but the chocolate didnt as I was addicted to the sweetness and the fat. I have never really been able to give them up ntil this year after diagnosis. Now just the smel of them turns my nose.
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That sounds familiar.
 
Anyway my posts have been a little off topic - sorry @cold ethyl.

I wrote to and got a reply from the prof when I sent him my story, graphs and data for my journey and offered my services if he wanted to do any follow up experiments.

I also have given his research to others at work with T2 but they all just claim they couldn't do it as it would be too hard. I always reply it isn't hard and it is 8 weeks from the rest of your life but to no avail as yet. I have even tried to push people towards low carb but that also falls between the cracks. It just seems that for some it is just too difficult to make changes. I suppose we are all weird folk in some ways just that I am very focused when I start a project. Not great finisher though.
 
Andrew Colvin said:
Anyway my posts have been a little off topic - sorry @cold ethyl.

I wrote to and got a reply from the prof when I sent him my story, graphs and data for my journey and offered my services if he wanted to do any follow up experiments.

I also have given his research to others at work with T2 but they all just claim they couldn't do it as it would be too hard. I always reply it isn't hard and it is 8 weeks from the rest of your life but to no avail as yet. I have even tried to push people towards low carb but that also falls between the cracks. It just seems that for some it is just too difficult to make changes. I suppose we are all weird folk in some ways just that I am very focused when I start a project. Not great finisher though.
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why do you assume we are all weird fish and toast?
 
No it is interesting. I think on your previous diet, even just dropping to 1800 cals a day would have seen some benefits!!! I agree people are reluctant to make changes. I know I was prior to diagnosis but I have made big ones since and find it hard to understand why others are so reluctant to give low carbing or serious weight reduction a go.
 
lol 1800 sounds like a marvellous amount at the moment. I had my lowest carb meal tonight for a long time (liver, bacon and raw carrot sticks). No chocolate, nuts, ice cream, halva or chips.
 
Andrew Colvin said:
Anyway my posts have been a little off topic - sorry @cold ethyl.

I wrote to and got a reply from the prof when I sent him my story, graphs and data for my journey and offered my services if he wanted to do any follow up experiments.

I also have given his research to others at work with T2 but they all just claim they couldn't do it as it would be too hard. I always reply it isn't hard and it is 8 weeks from the rest of your life but to no avail as yet. I have even tried to push people towards low carb but that also falls between the cracks. It just seems that for some it is just too difficult to make changes. I suppose we are all weird folk in some ways just that I am very focused when I start a project. Not great finisher though.
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Change, per se, has been my line of work for the last umpteen years. The topic of the change, whether it be people, culture, systems or processes might vary, but change is the constant. I reckon I've probably seen most of the avoidance tactics available to mankind over the years, but I can still be astonished by the strength of emotion we sometimes exhibit in relation to our diabetes. Our minds are wonderful things, when working with us. When working against us? That's really something else.
 
AndBreathe said:
Change, per se, has been my line of work for the last umpteen years. The topic of the change, whether it be people, culture, systems or processes might vary, but change is the constant. I reckon I've probably seen most of the avoidance tactics available to mankind over the years, but I can still be astonished by the strength of emotion we sometimes exhibit in relation to our diabetes. Our minds are wonderful things, when working with us. When working against us? That's really something else.
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one of the mechanisms that annoys me most is the "lets make a tiny change and then another and another" until we just can't be bothered as the benefit is invisible. It is just because they are scared and it costs so much more in resource. If you have a target just go for it. Things may get worse in the short term but will improve in the long term. May be I should be a gun ho texan
 
Andrew Colvin said:
one of the mechanisms that annoys me most is the lets make a tiny change and then another and another. It is just because they are scared and it costs so much more in resource. If you have a target just go for it. Things may get worse in the short term but will improve in the long term. May be I should be a gun ho texan
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Would you suit a Stetson?
 
head is too small for a 10 gallon hat nowadays - no fat left on it to fill the brim and I think I wouldn't find a gun belt small enough for my waist any more
 
Andrew Colvin said:
lol 1800 sounds like a marvellous amount at the moment. I had my lowest carb meal tonight for a long time (liver, bacon and raw carrot sticks). No chocolate, nuts, ice cream, halva or chips.
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Bloods surprisingly only peaked at 5.4 and down to 4.8 this morning.

this is too difficult two said:
I did 900 for 3 months.
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Then I am with your doctors: cured ;) I am on about that at the moment
 
Interesting reading Cold Ethyl and thank you :) .I was sat here thinking about years ago .When I was growing up my gran used to put out a plate of bread and butter with every meal and nearly every meal was potato based with stew or your classic meat and two veg (and yes she still served bread and butter with those! :D) No margarine or fat reduced anything in those days and yet the rate of obesity and diabetes was so much lower . I was never overweight and yet I look back and can't really see we were that much more active.I took the bus to school and spent a great deal of time reading .Doesn't that beg the question how much of this obesity problem is down to the hormones and additives in our food now?
 
Thanks for starting this thread @cold ethyl. I think I understand why reducing calories to 600 for 7 weeks didn't work for me. It wasn't a drastic enough change because I had dieted so often previously. It seems to work for those who suddenly 'wake up' to the fact that they need to do something about their health. Like @Brunneria I feel a little jealous, though not because of all those lovely carbs. :) I feel a bit upset that I would have been better off if I had never tried to lose weight and get healthy in the past. Still, I'm older and wiser now :)
 
But Zand your HbA1c is great and you have found a life style that suits now. If you had done it earlier you would be on the roller coaster carb ride still and may never have found us - not that I wish the D on you but you know what I mean
 
Andrew Colvin said:
But Zand your HbA1c is great and you have found a life style that suits now. If you had done it earlier you would be on the roller coaster carb ride still and may never have found us - not that I wish the D on you but you know what I mean
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Yes Andrew you are right. Today is the first day that I have seen positives in being diabetic. I suppose my whinge is that the weight loss is so difficult, but I do feel heaps better even if I don't lose anymore (but I will!) If I hadn't found this forum I wouldn't have realised that I had been suffering from depression for most of the last 18 years. It's because of folks on this forum that I am now taking anti-depressants and am having counselling. So at last I can say that for me diabetes has been a good thing. Thanks everyone :)
 
@zand what I found interesting was when he said that you didn't need to use the shakes but could just ditch the carbs and reduce meat portions- because it would be perfectly possible to eat a low cal diet and still eat carbs- ok it might be living on slice of dry toast at breakfast, plate of unsauced pasta etc. I do wonder if some of the benefits aren't the low calorie intake and the low carbs combined and not just the former.
 
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