Of course they won't. Carbs are a habit as much as anything else: we like to see a nice, full plate of food and when we see an emptier plate, we're instantly thinking of dessert or supper before bedtime. Just like smokers can quit the cigs but miss the habit, so it is with carbs.
Maybe the OP will continue to eat the massive stilton wheel - and more power to him. Both the first time I went LCHF and this time I've started now, I must have eaten around 30 Peperami's in a week. That's just how it goes. Eat mindfully, enjoy it, then move on.
The Fat Emperor thing is also correct - it's the actual "What happens" when we're fat adapted. A lot of it is a bit nonsensical (bodies be weird machines, eh?) but that's mostly because the guy's an engineer who specialises in processing information into models. But he's an interesting chap and if you can give yourself a bit of time to listen to one of his talks, you'll see he's a genuine fellow with a lot of really sound, up-to-the-minute sources feeding his information:
http://www.thefatemperor.com/latest-material/
In essence (though not universally), if we've managed to persuade our bodies to burn fat for fuel, our bodies aren't going to be burning AND storing the same stuff. SO what doesn't get burned gets thrown out because, guess what? There's another meal on its way and still no carbs. And we turn that fat into all kinds of interesting and fun stuff in order to get rid of it. But, the term for getting it out of the body is, exactly, "excretion" - it's not just a poop word!
You're right to be confused. It IS confusing, and it's the big diet secret that every single self-help diet book of the last 30 years, every slimming club, every nutritionist and dietician has been keeping from you. Given that you've had to stumble onto the info yourself - in the face of a lifetime of not-quite-accurate information, it's completely natural to be skeptical.
Enjoy your food. Eat without guilt. Be healthier and happier. I wish this for everyone x
still no links to scientific or even unscientific evidence for this idea that if i eat too much fat i wont put on weight. I am not going to risk gaining weight on the say so of a link to three videos which appear to be unrelated to the actual question.
I consider it right to be skeptical without any clear evidence being produced.
OMG.......are we......Agreeing??????????Lol snake oil diet, literally I think.
Yeah but it's late on a Sunday and there's lots and lots of info about it on the forum already. I'll look tomorrow, when I have more time (and brain power), but (with affection) the dedicated skeptic looks to disprove objectionable ideas themselves
And those 3 vids were just so people could hear the guy talking about things generally. Not specifically related to the issue in hand. Sorry I didn't make that clear when posting.
And no, @jcbman we don't just waste away - we continually feed our bodies protein and fat. We're far from starving, but we're also not eating fat AND carbs AND protein anymore: we've picked our macronutrient and laying down the law to our metabolisms.
And it wasn't an "unlimited Peperami diet", it was the first week of LCHF. That I did make clear
Subcutaneous or visceral fat cannot be excreted. If this were in any way true the weight loss industry would have seized upon this gleefully. If stored fat was fully metabolized then the byproducts like water and carbon dioxide would be excreted. It is very misleading to think that excess fat can be excreted.Yes, but not at a level where we would gain massive amounts of weight because when fat adapted we would be using it as fuel.
When we lose subcutaneous fat or visceral fat it is excreted in the faeces, the breath and to a lesser extent in the sweat. The source for this information eludes me, too.
Subcutaneous or visceral fat cannot be excreted. If this were in any way true the weight loss industry would have seized upon this gleefully. If stored fat was fully metabolized then the byproducts like water and carbon dioxide would be excreted. It is very misleading to think that excess fat can be excreted.
If the extra fat that is burned is compensated by an increase in dietary fat, then no body fat loss will occur (but there still will be other benefits).
The diet industry doesn't want anyone to actually lose weight in the long-term. They like repeat visitors who enjoy results after 12 weeks, imagine they're "cured" and then wander back to their "normal" lives, regain all that weight and then return because summer's on the way and it worked so well last time.
And anyway. It's working for me and many others. People are free to agree or disagree, but all I'd say is try it for 12 weeks (give yourself 4 weeks to get off carbs, 4 weeks to get used to it and start seeing results and 4 weeks to make sure it wasn't a fluke). I know what eating carbs my whole life has done for me. And I've seen what cutting back on them has returned. Regardless of whether my layman grasp of science is able to explain it in peer-reviewed study terms or not, I'm comfortable with my choices and feel able to support others making similar choices.
I sorta feel we're bickering for the sake's of it at this point. If you're skeptical and don't believe it, then look for evidence either way or write it off all together. Either way, enjoy your food, eat without guilt and have a good start to your week
and this one:A high fat diet habit will only result in weight gain if it goes alongside a high carb diet
Once fat adapted the fat in the diet does not make you fat as the energy is used. In other words, excess carbs are stored as fat whereas excess fat is excreted after a while on LCHF.
Fat adapted and ketogenic do not mean the same thing: you can be one without the other.
Just a small point (already covered by something I posted).
I think you are missing the point.
No-one is arguing that eating high amounts of carbs is a good thing. We are discussing these assertions:
and this one:
from @Guzzler
has anyone said they are?No, I'm saying they're different states.
http://www.tuitnutrition.com/2016/01/dont-be-a-ketard1.html
Overeating
Individuals who adopt LCHF or Paleo diets sometimes mistakenly believe that the dramatic lowering of insulin levels these diets typically produce means that they can consume as much food as they desire, as long as they stay away from the foods these strategies prohibit. But lower insulin levels are not free license to eat a stick of butter or a pound of nuts daily in addition to normal amounts of food. Just because a particular food fits a certain nutritional paradigm doesn’t mean mass quantities of it can be consumed with impunity in terms of body weight. It might “fit your macros,” but it might also mean 2000 extra calories a day. I am generally opposed to weighing, measuring, and tracking every molecule of food we eat, but at some point, calories do start to add up. You cannot eat “unlimited amounts of fat.” Yes, you might be in ketosis, but so what? Like I said earlier, ketosis does not guarantee fat loss, and, in fact, you can gain weight in a state of ketosis if you are gorging on fat.
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