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Diabetes is a scary condition. Personaly, I plan to reduce the risk of developing complicatins as much as I can.

As for sacrificing my diet? Please :roll: At breakfast today I had scrambled eggs with a dash of cream and for lunch I had a leafy salad with a homemade vinagrette and grilled brie cheese, sprinkled with toasted pecans. I am about to sit down with a couple of squares of high quality chocolate and a cup of tea. Very deprived, I'm sure.

Since I started making dietary changes after diagnosis my health has improved in leaps and bounds - I can see this in my regular blood tests at the doctors and my meter readings. Several people have commented that my skin is looking really good and my posture has changed as I have lost weight. The weight has fallen away and I have more energy. Since I stopped eating bread, pasta, rice and potato I have not been constantly hungry - which I was before I did that. Always thinking about my next meal and fighting hunger pangs, and eating a load of junky cr*p a lot of the time. Also, before diagnosis I was plagued by regular headaches, not serious ones, but enough for me to end up taking paracetamol on most days and to affect my concentration. Now when I have a headache I reach for the blood monitor before the paracetamol and often find I'm running with higher than normal blood sugar. I might still take the paracetamol, but I also look at what I have eaten and will make adjustments.

Diabetes shortens peoples lives and they live with awful long term complications - I watched my dad slowly dying for over 5 years before he died last year. His quality of life was very poor. If you are happy with readings that substantially increase the risk of the well known serious long term complications, I won't argue with you. But, please, credit the people who are asking how to bring their blood sugar readings down by diet with a little intelligence and the ability to discriminate between the advice they are given that might help them. If you think your diet has something to offer, then tell them. But don't criticise mine - or me for sharing the life-saving information I have found here from the likes of hanadr and other members who keep tight control. I find them quite inspirational.

I don't feel like I'm sacrificing anything and the pay offs are great. I look better. I feel better. I'm eating delicious food and generally eating better than I have for years. And I feel confident enough to eat off plan once in a while and know that that does not mean a return to the levels that made me feel so awful before I brought my blood sugar under control.
 
timo2 said:
I'm sure we can forgive people for being a bit evangelical about a diet that's changed their life.
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Of course we can Timo, but it does get a bet tiresome when some people bang on and on about how clever they are not to be on medication. The simple fact is some of us have no choice, yes that right, I would love to not be on medication but that is sadly not possible, so when I read posts like:
hanadr said:
Someone has to provide the pharmaceutical industry with its profits. I personally prefer not to and I also want to SEE my grandchildren grow up.
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It tends to make me extremely angry, these holier than thou jibes have no place on a forum claiming to offer help to those who have no option but to be on medication.

And if you think I could stop taking my daily 2g of metformin and an average 30 units of Insulin and keep my HB A1c at 5.4% when I'm already only eating an average of 90 carbs a day then please tell me :evil:
 
valattrevear said:
Yipster29, cabbage or starve? Close decision! I am eating cabbage now, but in only desperation and at that it's swimming in butter!
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Yum! Cabbage is lovely. It is very nice with butter - I remember my mum doing cabbage with butter melted in in and bacon in the days I ate meat.
 
Acron
Please don't take this the wrong way what i am trying to say!
Thing is everybody i have found the help and support of ken and hana,katherine,sue,dennis,jude and a few others to name i would not be where i am today!
I was so scared when i came on here i was offered help and support from everyone! Take this forum as being almost being like a family!
If two people bicker or argue within a family unit, other people get hurt! I just don't understand why you are being the way you are being This makes me confused! A question was asked for help you jumped in and started making out people are being like! Well i can't wait for the day when i can come onto this forum and say i have done it i am now in the 5% club! That will be a proud day for me!
I am grateful of hana's support and help! Hana has always been there to offer help and support in any way that she can!
I just wish that you did not want to go out of your way to say things!
There are new people on here who are affraid to ask questions as they don't want to start a arguement! I am trying to put this in a way that does not come over wrong!
There are people on here who want help and support then comes along someone who wants to upset everything!
I have found this forum helpful! Please respect people on here Acron! We are here to help each other! This is a very supportive and helpful forum please don't wreck it!
Sandy
 
sandymaynard said:
Please respect people on here Acron! We are here to help each other! This is a very supportive and helpful forum please don't wreck it!
Sandy
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Respect is a two way street Sandy and making sarcastic comments aimed at diabetics on medication is neither helpful or constructive, and will gain no respect from me.


I have no problem with you Sandy, just some people who should know better.
 
Sid.

I am interested to know who, in this thread, is making sarcastic comments about Diabetics on medication ?
 
Hi cugila, as I have already posted

hanadr said:
Someone has to provide the pharmaceutical industry with its profits. I personally prefer not to and I also want to SEE my grandchildren grow up.
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Well I dont provide the pharmaceutical industry with its profits by choice and I too would also like to SEE my grandchildren grow up.

Its not the first time these sarcastic comments have been made and I find them smug and offensive. But perhaps I am too sensitive eh?
 
Hi Sid
I am sorry that you mistook something i said as scartitic it was not! I was trying to ask for acron, not to make personal comments towards other people!
I don't like people fighting i have seen the pain that it causes!
I have no problem with anyone, I am not on medication myself i have not from what i have re read at least 3 times, made any jibes or comments about anyone on medication!
I was just trying to put in a nice way that we are all here to help no matter weither we are on meds or not! We all have the same condition that is diabeties!
It would be helpful if we all worked together on this!
I am very sorry you took this the wrong way! I did not mean any harm by saying what i said! I just meant it would everybody if we worked together!
Sandy
 
Sid you have answered your own question there!
I don't find Hana's comment sarcastic, they are just her opinion that's all.I'm not on meds through my own choice but come the day that I have to take them then I will. Some people don't have the choice to choose, when they are diagnosed.
 

Sandy ,it is not you that is being quoted as sarcastic!!
 
sandymaynard said:
Hi Sid
I am sorry that you mistook something i said as scartitic it was not!
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No Sandy it is I who should apologise to you if you took my 'sarcastic' remark as aimed at you. I quoted you as asking acron to have respect and I was just trying to make the point that respect has to be earned and that certain remarks by other posters did not earn my respect.

I am really sorry if I have upset you in any way it was not my intention.


sugarless sue said:
I don't find Hana's comment sarcastic, they are just her opinion that's all.
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Sue, I appreciate that everyone has an opinion but sometimes its best to keep those opinions to yourself, especially when those opinions cause offence to other people. It is my opinion that hana knew exactly what she was doing when she posted the quoted passage, and it was aimed squarely at people like me who are on medication.

She answers almost every thread with comments about low carbing and not taking meds, its like a stuck record, she even pops up on a thread about weight lifting stating that "muscle is protein so why do you need carbs at all" or some such rubbish, she clearly knows nothing about how athletes build muscle but she has to reinforce her message just the same.

That is just MY opinion which I would have kept to myself but if you say its OK to post your opinions even if they will offend others then I guess its OK for me to post that.
 
Sue, I appreciate that everyone has an opinion but sometimes its best to keep those opinions to yourself, especially when those opinions cause offence to other people.
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I think you should take that as read Sid and just ignore threads which upset you.
 
No, no, no, can we please all stop this bickering, these silly arguments are far more scary for a newbie than listening to someone's success story.

Ask yourself, you dont have to answer here, but wouldnt everyone of you be really, really happy to be a member of the 5% club??? I know it took me ages to get there, years in fact, it was a long hard battle, eventually I got there, I wrote my story thinking I would give other diabetics hope, and hoping they can avoid making my mistakes along the way and reach their goal quicker, having said that everyone remember that this was MY route, I did extreme low carb, it was fine for ME, it worked for ME, if you achieve really good control via other means, whether high low extreme carb or GI or the Himalayan Mountain Goat diet is YOUR business. I have pointed out in many of my posts that these things cannot be achieved over night and one must be patient and not hard on oneself.
I certainly never intended to boast about my success, as I said, I wrote about it so that maybe others can pick up a tip or two that may just work for them.

I dont believe for one single moment that Hana is boasting, by sharing with us that she has fallen off the wagon, Hana is very supportive and encouraging and sharing her experiences with us, if she thought she was sitting on the throne and little Miss Perfect she would not have announced to us all that she made this mistake with her popcorn, she would have kept very quiet about it...by talking about it she has shown us all that she is very human and that everyone can slip up now and then. So the message is strive for good control, no matter how you achieve this, and no, it is NOT a failure if you need to take medication to help you achieve this, some people can try anything but still stay high bg, they are unlucky, remember the old cliche, "everybody is different".

Newbies are being told that they can achieve non-diabetic levels, this is to give them hope, but we also talk about our own setbacks and battles along the way and that will give a newbie hope too, because they can identify with all or some of it.

So PLEASE, PLEASE, PLEASE can we stop this horrible thread and go back to being really nice and helpful to each other instead of scaring guests off from registering and getting advice and help they are looking for.

Lots of love to everyone

Karen x
 
lol and the low-carb v the reg-carb diet protestors strike again

8.2 isn't going to cause you complications in the future. Grabbing a handful of popcorn isn't going to cause you to lose your sight, or legs or any other complication.
Regularly running high will contribute towards it in later life. High isn't 8.2. Doctors and most professionals (well, in France anyway, where they have the lowest level of complications in Europe) expect your sugar to rise to 9 or 10 after you have eaten. As long as you aren't running that high all day, every day, it won't hurt.

Personally, I don't like cutting carbs, and won't. But if you do, that's your decision Just please try not to preach to everyone that choses to continue eating them
 

For goodness sake!! So Hana was having a bit of self flagellation!!That's how she feels about her personal targets. Maybe if everyone felt so passionately about their control in whatever way they control or eat then there would be less diabetics with less complications in the country.
If you don't like Hana's or any one else's style of posting then just ignore the post ,move on and let us get on with the important thing on this board of helping and supporting other diabetics, not fielding unhelpful comments!
 
As a newbie, I want to hear it all, warts and all! The advice on this forum is invaluable as long as we take the time and effort to work out what road is best for each individual. I don't aspire to any magical figure at the present time, I just want to learn from you all how to gain control and keep stable figures. I am never going to be perfect [I'm far to modest to be perfect ] but I know now that this disease can be harnessed, and that is all due to this forum .
 
Sweet3x,

You're type 1, Hana is type 2. She also has to consider the damage that elevated sugars can do to her own insulin production (on top of worrying about long-term complications).
 
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