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Needs a precise and accurately located cut though otherwise you mess it up.
 
AlexMBrennan said:
The difference is that tobacco Is proven to be harmful whereas you want to ban foods based on the fad diet that happens to be "in" right now and you believe in.

If you could prove that low carb cures all ills things would change very rapidly and you would probably get a Nobel price in medicine, but until such a time you have to stick to selling books to lay people who can't make an informed decision about your claims.
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I worry more about the fad diet that is foisted on the innocent by the NHS!
 
AlexMBrennan said:
The difference is that tobacco Is proven to be harmful whereas you want to ban foods based on the fad diet that happens to be "in" right now and you believe in.

If you could prove that low carb cures all ills things would change very rapidly and you would probably get a Nobel price in medicine, but until such a time you have to stick to selling books to lay people who can't make an informed decision about your claims.
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The accurate comparison isn't proving that low carb cures anything (let alone "all ills"), but if there was proof that high-carb processed food diets are harmful. I think we are at or near that point with the evidence.

The relevant food manufacturers have one or maybe two further lines of defence that the tobacco firms didn't have. The tobacco firms couldn't claim to be aligned with government health policy, which the food firms can claim. And the tobacco firms were found to have known tobacco was clearly harmful, while denying it to protect their profits. I hope that the same is not true of the processed-carb firms.

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My view is that too much sugar is dangerous for the human body. I also believe that sugar is addictive and people get cravings and withdrawal symptoms.
I intuitively feel that eating a 'natural diet' or non-processed diet has to be better for you.
My dentist calls it the caveman diet.

Whilst it's true there is a lack of empirical data I can find no rational explanation why food and drinks manufacturers need to overload their products with sugar. It's a generational ticking time bomb.


http://www.telegraph.co.uk/health/h...-alcohol-and-tobacco-warn-health-experts.html



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From the link above;


Assistant Professor of Medicine at the University of Ottawa, Canada, Yoni Freedhoff; “Not only has added sugar found its way into virtually everything we eat, but worse still, the use of sugar as a means to pacify, entertain and reward children has become normalized to the point that questioning our current sugary status quo often inspires anger and outrage.


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VinnyJames said:
I can find no rational explanation why food and drinks manufacturers need to overload their products with sugar.
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Er, easy profit?
 
This will probably happen in the USA, but I wonder who will be brave enough (and when) to start the first class action against food companies for making them obese and diabetic?
 
sanguine said:
This will probably happen in the USA, but I wonder who will be brave enough (and when) to start the first class action against food companies for making them obese and diabetic?
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I've been thinking about this for a while. As I said above, there are a couple of obstacles to litigation, mainly that the food companies were in line with official government health policies. It's hard to sue the government. It's maybe even harder to prove that the food companies shaped the government policy (if they did).
 
It is worth noting though that the government is in talks with major food manufacturers to reduce sugar by 30%.
The government wants them to do it on a voluntary basis.


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sanguine said:
Er, easy profit?
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It's said the added sugar in food makes it 'taste better', 'keep longer', and makes it 'more acceptable to the consumer'.

For all that read: 'sells more'.

I remember when I first brewed 'real ale' back in the 1970s, I threw my first efforts away because they didn't taste right. It was only when I started to try some of the commercial real ale that I realised that was how beers was supposed to taste but the big brewers had standardised their processed and pasteurised beers so much we'd got used to thinking that was how beer was supposed to taste. (Mind you, I have made some pretty awful batches since then)

Same applies to bread .........
 
AlexMBrennan said:
The difference is that tobacco Is proven to be harmful whereas you want to ban foods based on the fad diet that happens to be "in" right now and you believe in.

If you could prove that low carb cures all ills things would change very rapidly and you would probably get a Nobel price in medicine, but until such a time you have to stick to selling books to lay people who can't make an informed decision about your claims.
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Low carb isn't a fad diet. It's a scientific approach to managing diabetes on the basis that a diabetic's body can't handle glucose properly and by reducing the amount consumed you can to some extent keep the diabetes under control. As others have said, how many posters have claimed they controlled their diabetes thru a high-carb diet and many, many posters have claimed success to at least some extent by low-carbing
 
AlexMBrennan said:
The difference is that tobacco Is proven to be harmful whereas you want to ban foods based on the fad diet that happens to be "in" right now and you believe in.

If you could prove that low carb cures all ills things would change very rapidly and you would probably get a Nobel price in medicine, but until such a time you have to stick to selling books to lay people who can't make an informed decision about your claims.
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I'm interested in knowing how you have managed to control your diabetes? Your don't mention your diabetes type or medication, if any, in your profile.
 
I'm sure I saw on the news (uk) about a possible bill to add a sugar tax? To soft drinks etc. I gave up eating sugar and switched to "diet" drinks, sweetener etc after having gestational diabetes, but not having any more info to hand missed the point that if I piled my plate high with mashed potatoes or pasta, not only was it not going to help my waistline, it wasn't going to help my pancreas that had already "moaned" about the extra load from being pregnant even though I was nicely slim back then lol :)
 
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