Just seen the Daily Express head line....

[Oldvatr]

Excuse me I'm a Daily Express reader

I was talking average there, just as my BGL scores are best averaged. It must have been important to replace the usual weather report on the front page. Obviously there will be educated readers who will understand, just as there will be diabetics who have an interest, but most people will know more about calories than carbs, which is more of a specialist topic. If I was not a diabetic and actually using an LC diet, then I would probably have no interest either.

 

[13lizanne]

Hey friend! It was a joke

 

[bulkbiker]

Well I've got an email from DUK saying my booklet is on its way. I can't wait!

Edit: Well I really couldn't wait. So I went to some of the links

What century are they in? you apply for a booklet online and they post it to you?
Wouldn't a download from their website save all that wait. You couldn't make it up....Also surely would save the printing costs.. reading what they have put about low carb diets on their website I am very glad I found you guys first...

 

[Robbity]

The average Express reader does not know what carbs are. Or care?

Errm What's carbs then??

That was my first thought too.... Sugar (although perhaps not quite as accurate) may make more sense to more people. I wasn't particularly "carbs aware" until diabetes made me sit up and take more notice.

Robbity

 

[Daphne917]

Errm What's carbs then??

That was my first thought too.... Sugar (although perhaps not quite as accurate) may make more sense to more people. I wasn't particularly "carbs aware" until diabetes made me sit up and take more notice.

Robbity

Same here - to me w/wheat spaghetti, brown bread, bran flakes, rice, jacket potatoes, low fat everything and plenty of fruit, of which I ate more than my 5 a day, was a healthy diet so why did I get T2 diabetes and not lose any weight?

 

[Oldvatr]

Hey friend! It was a joke

Not a problem. I just wanted to clarify that i was making a gross generalisation there in case there are other upset paper readers out there. Any way we appear to be talking different papers.

From what i saw of the article, it wasn't as bad as I thought it might be. it did not reflect the latest thinking as expressed in this forum, which you and I both benefit from. Bu it is trying to provide publicity for DUK as well as Tesco which I have no problem with. it hopefully will open up discussion that may not have otherwise started.

 

[Oldvatr]

What century are they in? you apply for a booklet online and they post it to you?
Wouldn't a download from their website save all that wait. You couldn't make it up....Also surely would save the printing costs.. reading what they have put about low carb diets on their website I am very glad I found you guys first...

If you read it, you will see that it is funded by Tesco. it is not my money going to waste here.

 

[Oldvatr]

Same here - to me w/wheat spaghetti, brown bread, bran flakes, rice, jacket potatoes, low fat everything and plenty of fruit, of which I ate more than my 5 a day, was a healthy diet so why did I get T2 diabetes and not lose any weight?

That is the Government line which has not yet changed. It will take a while to turn around the last 30 years of professional 'advice' and guidelines. Don't forget that the main research reports regarding carbs and saturated fat were only published bout a year ago. Although i do LC myself, i still have worries that another report yet to be published will once again reverse our new understandings. There is no such thing as a free lunch (carby or not) The new thinking turns establishment thinking on its head, and everyone is jumping on the latest bandwagon. Yes it undeniably works on BGL, but are there any adverse trends to be discovered? I remember several diets in the past that were later shown to be snake oil. I hope this trend to LC does not go the same way.

 

[DavidGrahamJones]

I didn't read the article so have no idea of their source or if that includes T1 and T2, my thinking was it was probably more geared to T2.

Any how, wouldn't it be better if the headline read '700 people a day diagnosed with consuming too much carbs for their body to deal with'?

Or they're 1 of the 5% of pregnant women. (source - NHS)

Or they're taking Corticosteroids, Thiazides, Beta-blockers, Statins. (Source - Diabetes.co.uk).

Or their pancreas isn't working properly because of the person's age, genetics, weight or ethnicity. (Source - NHS)

Or they're insulin resistant which could be because of our western diet or . . . . . . . . . . (Source – diabetes.co.uk)

They should have come to me for a much more sensational headline. I've managed to live for 63 years and the one thing I've noticed in that time is that there is quite often nobody at home to prepare and cook food properly. Everyone has to go out to work to pay the rent. So how about "Living costs lead to type II diabetes". I could be more outrageous, but even if I say this is tongue in cheek, I'd probably end up on someone's hit list.

Something that occurred to me recently, I live on the outskirts of High Wycombe and we are fortunate enough to have two parades of shops within 1/2 mile, except for one thing, ignoring the estate agents (another one of my moans) we have:-

2 Indian Restaurants
1 Greek Restaurant
1 Indian Takeaway
1 Chinese Takeaway
1 Dominoes
1 Chines Fish and Chips
2 Cafes

And guess what? The council have obviously recognised our lack of places to get hot food and granted permission for the old NatWest Bank to become another Fish and Chip shop.

So, another tongue in cheek headline "Too many takeaways cause type II diabetes!"

Newspapers think we're all stupid and believe everything they say, my MIL is a classic example, at least I can put her beliefs (Daily Express beliefs) down to her advancing years.

 

[slip]

OK so the attention grabbing headline worked on me, but I have a vested interest - most non-diabetics will probably see it and mumble something about fat, lazy and that they should pay for it. They don't realise the 'healthy' diet they are on could be the cause of the ticking time bomb - as already mentioned above. To me the rise in diabetes is in correlation to increased consumption of processed and carb rich foods - I'm sure there's plenty of other factors too - but we all know someone on here who has reduced carbs and either reduced or stopped medication and feel better for it.

What needs to be done? Can be done? Sugar Tax? We should have all carried on smoking, at least the Doctors, eventually(!), agreed that smoking was bad for you!

 

[dbr10]

Thanks. I've ordered one.

Me too.

 

[britishpub]

I always thought the concept of a "Time Bomb" was that it was set with a pre-determined Time when it would go BANG.

All these "Ticking Time Bombs" the media are always warning of never seem to have a date set, they just go on and on.

 

[Oldvatr]

I always thought the concept of a "Time Bomb" was that it was set with a pre-determined Time when it would go BANG.

All these "Ticking Time Bombs" the media are always warning of never seem to have a date set, they just go on and on.

I think the concept being put across is that although we know there is a bomb in front of us, we have no idea of how much time remains on the clock. In the army they taught us about how an electromagnet can freeze the timer's action, allowing it to be defused. Similarly, some bombs were delayed action, but the impact oftern jammed the timer. However, moving the bomb could start the timer off again. The point is: one can either take immediate action to deal with the timer, or one can wait for it to time out. That is generally the sum of choices available. Faffing about is not recommended.

 

[Bluetit1802]

Is this the same booklet that has been all over ITV this evening? Not an advert for the booklet as such, more of an attempt by DUK to promote awareness, sponsored by Tesco. It was on 3 or 4 times.

 

[zand]

Is this the same booklet that has been all over ITV this evening? Not an advert for the booklet as such, more of an attempt by DUK to promote awareness, sponsored by Tesco. It was on 3 or 4 times.

Yes it is.

 

[Bluetit1802]

Yes it is.

Thanks. I thought it must be.

 

[Natalie1974]

Or they're 1 of the 5% of pregnant women. (source - NHS)

Or they're taking Corticosteroids, Thiazides, Beta-blockers, Statins. (Source - Diabetes.co.uk).

Or their pancreas isn't working properly because of the person's age, genetics, weight or ethnicity. (Source - NHS)

Or they're insulin resistant which could be because of our western diet or . . . . . . . . . . (Source – diabetes.co.uk)

They should have come to me for a much more sensational headline. I've managed to live for 63 years and the one thing I've noticed in that time is that there is quite often nobody at home to prepare and cook food properly. Everyone has to go out to work to pay the rent. So how about "Living costs lead to type II diabetes". I could be more outrageous, but even if I say this is tongue in cheek, I'd probably end up on someone's hit list.

Something that occurred to me recently, I live on the outskirts of High Wycombe and we are fortunate enough to have two parades of shops within 1/2 mile, except for one thing, ignoring the estate agents (another one of my moans) we have:-

2 Indian Restaurants
1 Greek Restaurant
1 Indian Takeaway
1 Chinese Takeaway
1 Dominoes
1 Chines Fish and Chips
2 Cafes

And guess what? The council have obviously recognised our lack of places to get hot food and granted permission for the old NatWest Bank to become another Fish and Chip shop.

So, another tongue in cheek headline "Too many takeaways cause type II diabetes!"

Newspapers think we're all stupid and believe everything they say, my MIL is a classic example, at least I can put her beliefs (Daily Express beliefs) down to her advancing years.

What...no kebab shop???

 

[Living-by-the-beach]

Great headline. As strange as it may seem some people don't know about diabetes. I had seen 4 physicians in the 4 years before becoming diabetic. Not one physician mentioned anything about diabetes to me at the time. My BMI at time of diagnosis was 30.7 I am now a BMI of 24 (or less on a good day) and I've not lost my diabetes. I have good control now and this past weekend I put in 44 miles of cycling & some weights workouts.

Last week I attended the funeral of a friend who died of diabetic complications, he was very obese. I approached him two years ago to join me in my quest (after my diagnosis) towards better health. He blew me off at that time. He left behind a diabetic wife (46) and two adopted girls. I feel bad that I hadn't been more forceful in my approach to him. Even now I seriously doubt that his widow has truly gotten the message about getting healthier..

 

[Donnadoobie]

I would agree about the lack of knowledge people generally have about carbohydrates and most people equate low carb to gluten free. I have been offered gluten free oat cakes when visiting people and my brother went out and spent a fortune on crackers 'that you can eat' that were full of carbs but gluten free. Also a friend of mine, who's husband has been diabetic for a while, told me that her daughter was trying to go low carb so she had given her cous cous!

It is not until you become more aware and proactive in cutting carbs that you realise how carb driven our society is and most people don't want to listen because it calls into question their whole eating habits. Our society is not 'carb free' friendly, as trying to grab a snack on the go will prove. On the final episode of Sugar Free Farm that was aired a couple of weeks ago, they all discovered that living sugar free and eating out was basically impossible, add carbs to that and we all know that it is very difficult and sometimes have to go for a compromise. I always go online to pre check menus before going out for a meal or opt for salad.

On the plus side this was an article from The Daily Mail

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/health/a...lains-FAT-best-medicine-s-crucial-health.html

 

[Mike d]

Sugar Tax?

Can't say I agree with the imposition of a tax (might work for lazy governments but we all know for many out there, the habits won't change) but I do agree to attack this at its source. Hit the companies (and hard) that produce this garbage and ensure there is no monetary penalty flowing thru to the consumer. Draconian? Perhaps. Just my tuppence worth.