Just to vent

Bughug1

Newbie
Messages
1
Type of diabetes
Prefer not to say
Treatment type
Tablets (oral)
May 2018 life hit me hard five major health issues sleep apnea,hypertension,IBS, high cholesterol then the worst one of all to me I a was told I had diabetes the a1c was just checked in March it came in at a 3 now in may it is 6.9 started testing levels actually got them down with merformin average dropped from 151 to 135 eating the same foods during this drop as I do now and taken my meds every 12 hrs now my sugar levels are hitting 200 plus eating some things I know will run it up but I’m eating less exercise more and it seams to be going up and I’ve noticed a pain around my liver area and when that happens it will be high that day for sure almost as it is being attacked if you read this and have experience this issues any help would be much appreciated if not thx anyway
 

Goonergal

Master
Retired Moderator
Messages
13,465
Type of diabetes
Type 2
Treatment type
Diet only
Good morning @Bughug1 and welcome.

I see this is your first post so am tagging @daisy1 for some helpful information. Have a read of that and ask as many questions as you like.

It’s not clear from your post so could you confirm that you’re type 2 on meds only (looks to be the case from your profile page)? That information will help people to respond to you more helpfully.

It seems you have a couple of questions - one about rising sugar levels and another about liver pain. For the latter you need to consult a doctor as we can’t help with diagnosis.

On the blood sugar levels, what does a typical day’s food look like?
 

Tophat1900

Well-Known Member
Messages
2,407
Type of diabetes
Type 3c
Treatment type
Other
Dislikes
Uncooked bacon
Talk to your doctor about the liver, could be any number of reasons for that.

If you're exercising hard as a T2 then that often spikes blood glucose levels. The liver will release glucose. Intense exercise causes the same release as the flight or fight mechanism. That's a problem if you already have a lot of glucose in your blood stream. Less intense (Walking) often lowers levels.
 

briped

Well-Known Member
Messages
947
Type of diabetes
Type 2
Treatment type
Non-insulin injectable medication (incretin mimetics)
May 2018 life hit me hard five major health issues sleep apnea,hypertension,IBS, high cholesterol then the worst one of all to me I a was told I had diabetes the a1c was just checked in March it came in at a 3 now in may it is 6.9 started testing levels actually got them down with merformin average dropped from 151 to 135 eating the same foods during this drop as I do now and taken my meds every 12 hrs now my sugar levels are hitting 200 plus eating some things I know will run it up but I’m eating less exercise more and it seams to be going up and I’ve noticed a pain around my liver area and when that happens it will be high that day for sure almost as it is being attacked if you read this and have experience this issues any help would be much appreciated if not thx anyway
Hello Bughug, and welcome to our raft. Have a read around and become much much wiser on what to eat and how to manage and hopefully improve your condition. This place is great for help to how you can help yourself.
The health issues you mention are related to obesity and T2. If you manage to get your bloodsugar and perhaps weight? down, the others are likely to improve or vanish too, so cheer up. There's lots of hope for you. So many people in here including myself really benefit from eating low carb foods. Perhaps check out dietdoctor.com, and look up Dr. Jason Fung.
Do ask away and look forward to Daisy1's welcome post. It's worth a read or 4.
 

daisy1

Legend
Messages
26,457
Type of diabetes
Type 2
Treatment type
Tablets (oral)
Dislikes
Cruelty towards animals.
@Bughug1
Hello and welcome to the Forum :) Here is the Basic Information we give to new members and I hope you will find it interesting and helpful.

BASIC INFORMATION FOR NEW MEMBERS

Diabetes is the general term to describe people who have blood that is sweeter than normal. A number of different types of diabetes exist.

A diagnosis of diabetes tends to be a big shock for most of us. It’s far from the end of the world though and on this forum you'll find well over 235,000 people who are demonstrating this.

On the forum we have found that with the number of new people being diagnosed with diabetes each day, sometimes the NHS is not being able to give all the advice it would perhaps like to deliver - particularly with regards to people with type 2 diabetes.

The role of carbohydrate

Carbohydrates are a factor in diabetes because they ultimately break down into sugar (glucose) within our blood. We then need enough insulin to either convert the blood sugar into energy for our body, or to store the blood sugar as body fat.

If the amount of carbohydrate we take in is more than our body’s own (or injected) insulin can cope with, then our blood sugar will rise.

The bad news

Research indicates that raised blood sugar levels over a period of years can lead to organ damage, commonly referred to as diabetic complications.

The good news

People on the forum here have shown that there is plenty of opportunity to keep blood sugar levels from going too high. It’s a daily task but it’s within our reach and it’s well worth the effort.

Controlling your carbs

The info below is primarily aimed at people with type 2 diabetes, however, it may also be of benefit for other types of diabetes as well.

There are two approaches to controlling your carbs:
  • Reduce your carbohydrate intake
  • Choose ‘better’ carbohydrates
Reduce your carbohydrates

A large number of people on this forum have chosen to reduce the amount of carbohydrates they eat as they have found this to be an effective way of improving (lowering) their blood sugar levels.

The carbohydrates which tend to have the most pronounced effect on blood sugar levels tend to be starchy carbohydrates such as rice, pasta, bread, potatoes and similar root vegetables, flour based products (pastry, cakes, biscuits, battered food etc) and certain fruits.

Choosing better carbohydrates

The low glycaemic index diet is often favoured by healthcare professionals but some people with diabetes find that low GI does not help their blood sugar enough and may wish to cut out these foods altogether.

Read more on carbohydrates and diabetes.

Over 145,000 people have taken part in the Low Carb Program - a 10 week structured education course that is helping people lose weight and reduce medication dependency by explaining the science behind carbs, insulin and GI.

Eating what works for you

Different people respond differently to different types of food. What works for one person may not work so well for another. The best way to see which foods are working for you is to test your blood sugar with a glucose meter.

To be able to see what effect a particular type of food or meal has on your blood sugar is to do a test before the meal and then test after the meal. A test 2 hours after the meal gives a good idea of how your body has reacted to the meal.

The blood sugar ranges recommended by NICE are as follows:

Blood glucose ranges for type 2 diabetes
  • Before meals: 4 to 7 mmol/l
  • 2 hours after meals: under 8.5 mmol/l
Blood glucose ranges for type 1 diabetes (adults)
  • Before meals: 4 to 7 mmol/l
  • 2 hours after meals: under 9 mmol/l
Blood glucose ranges for type 1 diabetes (children)
  • Before meals: 4 to 8 mmol/l
  • 2 hours after meals: under 10 mmol/l
However, those that are able to, may wish to keep blood sugar levels below the NICE after meal targets.

Access to blood glucose test strips

The NICE guidelines suggest that people newly diagnosed with type 2 diabetes should be offered:
  • structured education to every person and/or their carer at and around the time of diagnosis, with annual reinforcement and review
  • self-monitoring of plasma glucose to a person newly diagnosed with type 2 diabetes only as an integral part of his or her self-management education

Therefore both structured education and self-monitoring of blood glucose should be offered to people with type 2 diabetes. Read more on getting access to blood glucose testing supplies.

You may also be interested to read questions to ask at a diabetic clinic.

Note: This post has been edited from Sue/Ken's post to include up to date information.
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