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Kick up the 'bum' please

One thing I would say in addition to the superb advice already on this thread, is to get the psychology of this all right in your head.

Work from the point of view of the positive, not the negative. Don't think about where you are now, but build a picture in your mind of where you want to be and visualise that when you are making decisions about your health, diet, exercise etc. If you want to be 6-stone lighter, visualise yourself that way, or even just one stone as a starting point. Have in mind the positive health benefits that will bring, the better diabetes control, the better fitness, the better food choices you will be making.

I'm no professional in the field, but when I was a rugby referee, I helped a new guy get over his confidence problem in this way. I got him to visualise himself in key game situations, but more imnportantly to visualise himself being in the right place and making the right decision. You know what? It worked.
 
This thread is going to make me cry :( I need a major kick in the butt. Running very high numbers, terrified of going to doctor or hospital. I last0 about two weeks on low carb and then fall off wagon. I feel it is a hopeless situation indeed. I envy those who have such a strong resolve because I am by intelligent person so I know that damage in am doing. Sorry for cutting in on this thread

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ElyDave said:
One thing I would say in addition to the superb advice already on this thread, is to get the psychology of this all right in your head.

Work from the point of view of the positive, not the negative. Don't think about where you are now, but build a picture in your mind of where you want to be and visualise that when you are making decisions about your health, diet, exercise etc. If you want to be 6-stone lighter, visualise yourself that way, or even just one stone as a starting point. Have in mind the positive health benefits that will bring, the better diabetes control, the better fitness, the better food choices you will be making.

I'm no professional in the field, but when I was a rugby referee, I helped a new guy get over his confidence problem in this way. I got him to visualise himself in key game situations, but more imnportantly to visualise himself being in the right place and making the right decision. You know what? It worked.
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I am a very negative person and find it hard to be positive about myself. I doesn't help that my mum keeps on telling me "How pretty I would be if I lost my stomach" - I'm 44
I will try, Andy gave good advice yesterday too, so far I haven't started to write things down and so far today I have had a donut, flapjack and sausage roll.
No wonder i feel so c##p all the time eh :(
 
NICNAK68 said:
ElyDave said:
One thing I would say in addition to the superb advice already on this thread, is to get the psychology of this all right in your head.

Work from the point of view of the positive, not the negative. Don't think about where you are now, but build a picture in your mind of where you want to be and visualise that when you are making decisions about your health, diet, exercise etc. If you want to be 6-stone lighter, visualise yourself that way, or even just one stone as a starting point. Have in mind the positive health benefits that will bring, the better diabetes control, the better fitness, the better food choices you will be making.

I'm no professional in the field, but when I was a rugby referee, I helped a new guy get over his confidence problem in this way. I got him to visualise himself in key game situations, but more imnportantly to visualise himself being in the right place and making the right decision. You know what? It worked.
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I am a very negative person and find it hard to be positive about myself. I doesn't help that my mum keeps on telling me "How pretty I would be if I lost my stomach" - I'm 44
I will try, Andy gave good advice yesterday too, so far I haven't started to write things down and so far today I have had a donut, flapjack and sausage roll.
No wonder i feel so c##p all the time eh :(
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You've eaten it now. There's nothing you can do about it so stop beating yourself up as it will just make you feel worse, you'll want to eat more comfort food and so the cycle continues.

Instead perhaps try to make sure the next thing you eat is healthy. Perhaps you could plan your next snack or meal now so that its healthy and make sure you stick to it. I try to plan in advance to stop myself just eating anything that's there (even if I just plan it on the way home in my car).

Try to forget the negative things your mum has said (I know that's hard to go - especially if you are a negative person like me and you!) Im sure you have lots of lovely qualities that make you a fantastic, special person.

Patch13

Ps - I hope the above is helpful and I mean it in a helpful, nice way!
 
Hello NIKNAC

I can vouch for eating a diet that is less in carb. Less carb means less insulin and less weight gain and blood glucose levels staying more even. Ive been amazed at the results I am getting through eating yogurt with a small amount of porridge mixed in it and some blackberries or blueberries in the morning for breakfast, followed at lunch by eating some lettuce, celery, cucumber, a bit of onion and a dsp of mayonnaise together with either some chicken, tinned tuna, cold meat and this keeps me full up until tea time. I don't feel hungry mid afternoon like I thought I would. At teatime, I eat a load of cabbage with some frozen peas, some meat and some gravy and that appears to keep me ok until I go to bed. Ive been doing this for 10 days now and have lost 2kgs in body weight so can now get into my size 12 jeans ok.
 
Wow thats amazing, you have all been so encouraging and helpfull I am so so gratefull.
Maybe I will see my 50th birthday if I try my hardest to stick to the healthy low carb way of eating.
xx
 
Patch13 said:
NICNAK68 said:
ElyDave said:
One thing I would say in addition to the superb advice already on this thread, is to get the psychology of this all right in your head.

Work from the point of view of the positive, not the negative. Don't think about where you are now, but build a picture in your mind of where you want to be and visualise that when you are making decisions about your health, diet, exercise etc. If you want to be 6-stone lighter, visualise yourself that way, or even just one stone as a starting point. Have in mind the positive health benefits that will bring, the better diabetes control, the better fitness, the better food choices you will be making.

I'm no professional in the field, but when I was a rugby referee, I helped a new guy get over his confidence problem in this way. I got him to visualise himself in key game situations, but more imnportantly to visualise himself being in the right place and making the right decision. You know what? It worked.
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I am a very negative person and find it hard to be positive about myself. I doesn't help that my mum keeps on telling me "How pretty I would be if I lost my stomach" - I'm 44
I will try, Andy gave good advice yesterday too, so far I haven't started to write things down and so far today I have had a donut, flapjack and sausage roll.
No wonder i feel so c##p all the time eh :(
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You've eaten it now. There's nothing you can do about it so stop beating yourself up as it will just make you feel worse, you'll want to eat more comfort food and so the cycle continues.

Instead perhaps try to make sure the next thing you eat is healthy. Perhaps you could plan your next snack or meal now so that its healthy and make sure you stick to it. I try to plan in advance to stop myself just eating anything that's there (even if I just plan it on the way home in my car).

Try to forget the negative things your mum has said (I know that's hard to go - especially if you are a negative person like me and you!) Im sure you have lots of lovely qualities that make you a fantastic, special person.

Patch13

Ps - I hope the above is helpful and I mean it in a helpful, nice way!
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That's kinda my point Patch, it doesn't matter at all what you did yesterday, or even at breakfast today.

If yo are thinking about the positive thing you can do at the next meal or snack then you are more likely to do it.

Is it also time to sit down with NIKNACKs mother and tell her in no uncertain terms that her attitude and comments are not helping the situation; if she were also being more positive and supporting the positive benefits of the changes NIKNACK obviously wants to implement, then it would be more likely overall.
 
Ha ha the thought of telling my mother that Dave is laughable. Maybe I should stop being so sensitive.

Anyway today has been my first day of low carbing, how is my diet so far ?

0630 60g cornflakes and coffee
BS - 13.5, 12u Novorapid, 50g CHO
0845 - BS 20.1 corrective dose of 4u Novorapid

1200 - 2 boiled eggs, goats and feta cheese, 2 bratweirst
BS 16.00 3u Novorapid 0 CHO
 
Hi NICNAK

With bg level of 13.5 did you do a correction dose in with your bolus of 12u in order to get you back to a better target only if you didn't that was why you needed to do a correction? Also how much does 1u of novo drop you by?
 
iHs said:
Hi NICNAK

With bg level of 13.5 did you do a correction dose in with your bolus of 12u in order to get you back to a better target only if you didn't that was why you needed to do a correction? Also how much does 1u of novo drop you by?
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I have a meter that is meant to tell me how much insulin I need if I put the CHO level, with a bg of 13.5 and 50g of cornflakes it told me to have 12u of novo. When i did the bg 2 hours later i will still high so the meter told me to have a correction dose.

I am not sure how much 1u of novo drope me by, maybe one.

Thinking on since I have been using thew machine my bg have been all over the place. I will manually work out the novo by 1u to 7 gms of cho and see whqt happens then.

xx
 
NICNAK68 said:
iHs said:
Hi NICNAK

With bg level of 13.5 did you do a correction dose in with your bolus of 12u in order to get you back to a better target only if you didn't that was why you needed to do a correction? Also how much does 1u of novo drop you by?
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I have a meter that is meant to tell me how much insulin I need if I put the CHO level, with a bg of 13.5 and 50g of cornflakes it told me to have 12u of novo. When i did the bg 2 hours later i will still high so the meter told me to have a correction dose.

I am not sure how much 1u of novo drope me by, maybe one.

Thinking on since I have been using thew machine my bg have been all over the place. I will manually work out the novo by 1u to 7 gms of cho and see whqt happens then.

xx
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Hi

you should be able to manually alter the carb ratio on the Expert meter. I think by default its set to 1u for 10g carb but you can alter it yourself I think. The Abbott meter will need a code to alter it - CAA1C Not sure what your average before you eat a meal bg level is but try to get it lower bit by bit.... not too fast as you don't want to go from one extreme to another too quickly. Try to work to an ideal target bg. Like if your bg levels are about 12mmol before you eat, use a target of 10mmol, then 8mmol, then 7mmol and do it over a period of a few weeks or whatever your diabetes consultant has told you to do. The average daily insulin dose for most people is based on their body weight being 0.5-1.0u of insulin for every 1kg bodyweight. If you weigh yourself you could use that calculation to try to work out a starting dose. If you weigh 50kgs your ideal dose is going to be about 0.7u per kg so that's 35u of insulin. 17u for the daily basal and 17u bolus divided up over 3 meals. Yours will be different of course but its not a bad starting guide and it can be adjusted to suit whatever bg levels you need to aim for. Probably, the best way of working out whether your basal is correct or not is to do a bit of fasting and then keep testing every 2hrs to see how things are going....
 
NICNAK68 said:
Ha ha the thought of telling my mother that Dave is laughable. Maybe I should stop being so sensitive.

Anyway today has been my first day of low carbing, how is my diet so far ?

0630 60g cornflakes and coffee
BS - 13.5, 12u Novorapid, 50g CHO
0845 - BS 20.1 corrective dose of 4u Novorapid

1200 - 2 boiled eggs, goats and feta cheese, 2 bratweirst
BS 16.00 3u Novorapid 0 CHO
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I just wanted to remind you that although a meal may have zero carbs in it you will still need to take insulin with it (I found this out the hard way when I couldn't understand why my levels where jumping up when I hadn't had carbs). I see you did do this at lunch, so well done!

Also you may benefit from replacing your cereal with something else as I think quite a few diabetics struggle with cereal causing a spike. Something that doesn't cause such a spike perhaps. Some people have burgen bread I think.

Are you MDI or a pumper?
What level of carbs are you aiming to eat each day?

PM me if you want to.

Patch13
 
egg and bacon or omelette is good for brekkie, although I love fage total greek yogurt with berries and milled flax sprinkled, if you are desperate for bread use it when its a pain not to....ie if you need a pack lunch on the go, I wouldn't waste the carbs for brekkie theres too many low carb choices and your at home (unless lucky hehe)

I agree cereal is awful for me and many others including porridge, but hey some are fine with it :) I used to love my Weetabix :( in fact often had it for an evening meal too yum
 
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