Lapse in food discipline

[Inchindown]

The last couple of evenings I've had lapses in my eating control and given in to the urges I used to have before diagnosis.

This resulted in my BG spiking into double figures and led to a couple of nights of very disturbed sleep.

To my surprise my morning fasting BG was 5.4 and 5.2 following these overeating sessions.

I don't really understand why my fasting BG should be so low after serious overeating sessions.

Can anyone explain why my fasting BG is so low after a couple of binge eating sessions.

 

[Brunneria]

People seem to vary a lot with their morning readings.

sometimes what they ate the night before has a huge impact.
sometimes it doesn't.
some people find that it takes months of consistent eating for their fasting blood glucose to show changes
some people find their fasting numbers drop within a week.
just the way our individual bodies work.

For me, the biggest factor in fasting blood glucose is stress and sleep quality. Food the night before has never had the slightest impact, as far as I can see.

 

[GrantGam]

The last couple of evenings I've had lapses in my eating control and given in to the urges I used to have before diagnosis.

This resulted in my BG spiking into double figures and led to a couple of nights of very disturbed sleep.

To my surprise my morning fasting BG was 5.4 and 5.2 following these overeating sessions.

I don't really understand why my fasting BG should be so low after serious overeating sessions.

Can anyone explain why my fasting BG is so low after a couple of binge eating sessions.

I'll be slightly cheeky in saying that your fasting BG is low after a lapse in dietary focus because you "don't have diabetes" going by your profile

Jokes aside, it would seem that you're getting good answers from the other forum members here. You may wish to update your diabetes type in your profile, as to avoid confusing the other numpties like me

 

[Freema]

The last couple of evenings I've had lapses in my eating control and given in to the urges I used to have before diagnosis.

This resulted in my BG spiking into double figures and led to a couple of nights of very disturbed sleep.

To my surprise my morning fasting BG was 5.4 and 5.2 following these overeating sessions.

I don't really understand why my fasting BG should be so low after serious overeating sessions.

Can anyone explain why my fasting BG is so low after a couple of binge eating sessions.

maybe you did eat less protein those days , they convert slower into glucose in the following days where glucose mostly affect the day you eat it ...?



I think it can be important to actually plan some sinning days around the year , and I think I need one soon, where I just eat what I want , just to be able to keep up my spirit all the rest of the time..., I also drank cocoamilk yesterday evening which has far too much sugar in it, but had had very few carbs the rest of the day, and actually my blood only rose to 6.5 and 1 hour later it was back at 5.0mmol so maybe still an effect from my hard fitness 2 days ago...seems it was a non-diabetic insuline response I had there...

 

[Inchindown]

I'll be slightly cheeky in saying that your fasting BG is low after a lapse in dietary focus because you "don't have diabetes" going by your profile

Jokes aside, it would seem that you're getting good answers from the other forum members here. You may wish to update your diabetes type in your profile, as to avoid confusing the other numpties like me

Thanks for the thoughts.

I've updated my profile to show I'm type 2 taking metformin.

 

[Inchindown]

maybe you did eat less protein those days , they convert slower into glucose in the following days where glucose mostly affect the day you eat it ...?



I think it can be important to actually plan some sinning days around the year , and I think I need one soon, where I just eat what I want , just to be able to keep up my spirit all the rest of the time..., I also drank cocoamilk yesterday evening which has far too much sugar in it, but had had very few carbs the rest of the day, and actually my blood only rose to 6.5 and 1 hour later it was back at 5.0mmol so maybe still an effect from my hard fitness 2 days ago...seems it was a non-diabetic insuline response I had there...

I ate normally during the day but started to have unbearable urges after dinner.

This is what I ate on one of the days.

Breakfast of porridge.

Mid morning snack of chicken drumsticks.

Lunch of ham and cheese sandwich.

Dinner of Sirloin steak with veggies.

Binge at about 8pm of 1 litre of ice cream, cheese sandwich, 4 fresh cream cakes, 4 large chocolate chip cookies, 5 custard filled doughnuts, family sized bag of crisps.

This binge is my worst nightmare and I thought I had beaten the urges to do this since diagnosis. These 2 binges this week are the first since I was diagnosed at the beginning of December.

I need to find a strategy to prevent any more session like this.

 

[Ann1982]

Strategy to avoid binges like that - don't have the cakes etc in the house. It's he only thing that works for me. My poor other half doesn't get them either but I have to say his tastes have changed since starting the LCHF diet. Mine haven't I still long for a Krispy Kreme doughnut!

 

[Brunneria]

Just a suggestion:

Your first binge set you up for your second. It is a chemical craving. Like carb withdrawal.
So be prepared for the next day repeat craving.
It takes me 3-5 days of 'withdrawal' before the cravings dissipate.

Also, if you had had a bigger steak, with butter or cheese on the veggies, with a dessert of berries and cream, I suspect you would have dodged the craving bullet.

In my experience, eating to satiety on low carb foods, mainly fat, but also protein, is the best craving killer EVER.

Nowadays, I just have a coffee with a good hefty glug of cream in it, and the cravings just vaporise.
The trick was to train myself to reach for the coffee and cream, not the carbs I am obsessing about.

 

[Freema]

I ate normally during the day but started to have unbearable urges after dinner.

This is what I ate on one of the days.

Breakfast of porridge.

Mid morning snack of chicken drumsticks.

Lunch of ham and cheese sandwich.

Dinner of Sirloin steak with veggies.

Binge at about 8pm of 1 litre of ice cream, cheese sandwich, 4 fresh cream cakes, 4 large chocolate chip cookies, 5 custard filled doughnuts, family sized bag of crisps.

This binge is my worst nightmare and I thought I had beaten the urges to do this since diagnosis. These 2 binges this week are the first since I was diagnosed at the beginning of December.

I need to find a strategy to prevent any more session like this.

well yes that´s a lot... but dont hate yourself for that... in some way you maybe needed it,

and remember like what my nurse told me ;it is not what you eat between christmas and new year that is the problem, but what you eat between new year and christmas..
what I mean is that an occacional sinning day is not that bad as long as it doesn´t devellop into most every day..
so better say you can have such a day once monthly and look forward to it instead of hating and beating oneself up

 

[Inchindown]

Strategy to avoid binges like that - don't have the cakes etc in the house. It's he only thing that works for me. My poor other half doesn't get them either but I have to say his tastes have changed since starting the LCHF diet. Mine haven't I still long for a Krispy Kreme doughnut!

I didn't have any of my binge food in the house. I drove a 10 mile round trip to the local supermarket to get it.

 

[AndBreathe]

@Inchindown - Do you know why you did it? I'm absolutely not asking you to tell me or anyone else, but sometimes if we know, deep down, why we did something, it's easier to ignore the temptation next time around.

In your shoes, I might probably try to plan something into my evening, so minimise the chances of me having any guilt thoughts or naughty temptations.

By planning something in, I might iron (OK, that's a lie. Ironing is an emergency activity only!), or sew loose buttons on shirts, or work on some other project, just to distract myself.

Good luck with it all, and don't beat yourself up for having stumbled a tiny bit from the horse. It's waiting for you to get right back on.

 

[Geordie_P]

Inchindown, your story really hits me as familiar- I used to binge *just* like that before I got diagnosed: same time in the evening, same sort of foods, same thing with it following a day of eating quite healthily. Probably similar feelings of 'why am I doing this?' too.

It makes me wonder if those carbs you had during the day set you off. My craving for those type of sweets and carbs has really diminished now, but I do believe porridge in the morning and a ham sandwich might set me off looking for the chocolate biscuits and whatnot later in the evening. I've still got a bad tendency to binge, but it tends to be with things like spirits, or red wine and cheese which doesn't put my blood up too much. I'm not saying that's any healthier, but just the kind of sweets and carb cravings I used to get seemed to dry up when I cut starch out of my diet, Might be worth looking into?

In any case, you seem to be doing quite well as long as you don't make these binges a habit, so like the others said, get back on that horse- and good luck to you!

 

[Freema]

I just came home after burning 1800 calories and now have binged with 350ml milk and 4 spoons of sugary cocoapowder and 2,5 banana... 122 grams of carb, now wondering how igh my blood glucose will get... I see it as my own glucose testing...

I dont know how low my number was before...but 20:30 it is an hour since eating/drinking it... so guess it will peak around that time... I have really done a lot to better my insuline rsistance by all this excessive exercise.. so now interesting if it bears fruit

well turned out to be at the highest 6.7 after 1 hour down to 6.2 ... that is really amazing... all my fitness seems to work perfectly