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Lchf and high blood glucose

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Pdiabet

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Type of diabetes
Prediabetes
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Diet only
I had strict lchf diet for 3 three weeks almost 30 gms carbs per day
When i introduced more carbs say 70 to 100 gms my sugar levels are shooting upto 180 @ 1 hour ppbs and 125@ 2 hour ppbs
What could be reason for higher bsl readings
 
Hello and welcome.

Am I reading this right, that you only did the low carb diet for 3 weeks then introduced a load more carbs? I think you will find that the low carb diet is for life, not just 3 weeks. Your sugar levels are shooting up because you are eating too many carbs I'm afraid. Why did you introduce these extra carbs? Was there a special reason?
 
The reason for the higher blood sugar reading could just possibly be the additional 70 to 100g of carbs??? In fact almost certainly the extra carbs.
sally
 
To quote Zand from another thread.

'When you follow a low carb diet you can become glucose intolerant for a while. This is because the enzymes that are needed to digest the food are created on demand and your body is out of practice at producing higher quantities of the relevant enzymes immediately. So once someone is adapted to low-carbing they don't have enough enzymes to deal with the sudden increase in glucose associated with the type of meal to which you refer. So I would expect a low carber (whether diabetic or not) to spike higher than someone who regularly eats the meal you quote. It's for this reason that I don't think pondering on what is 'normal' after a meal like this is at all useful, it's what is normal for ourselves that really matters'
 
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douglas99 said:
To quote Zand from another thread.

'When you follow a low carb diet you can become glucose intolerant for a while. This is because the enzymes that are needed to digest the food are created on demand and your body is out of practice at producing higher quantities of the relevant enzymes immediately. So once someone is adapted to low-carbing they don't have enough enzymes to deal with the sudden increase in glucose associated with the type of meal to which you refer. So I would expect a low carber (whether diabetic or not) to spike higher than someone who regularly eats the meal you quote. It's for this reason that I don't think pondering on what is 'normal' after a meal like this is at all useful, it's what is normal for ourselves that really matters'
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You don't like low carb?
 
douglas99 said:
Zand gave an explanation for the op's observation, whether anyone likes it or not, it probably wouldn't change what he said?
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zand hasn't posted, so it's going to be hard to claim that zand explanation is applicable to OP and would be repeated, normally one quotes something as a source, to back up your opinion and not to speculate.
it's up to Zand to give the opinion on OP, it's not really for you to speculate what will be said,

you might want to cite this as a source
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2444943/pdf/brmedj07161-0009.pdf
 
did
jack412 said:
zand hasn't posted, so it's going to be hard to claim that zand explanation is applicable to OP and would be repeated, normally one quotes something as a source, to back up your opinion and not to speculate.
it's up to Zand to give the opinion on OP, it's not really for you to speculate what will be said,

you might want to cite this as a source
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2444943/pdf/brmedj07161-0009.pdf
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To be fair he did say from another thread.
 
jack412 said:
zand hasn't posted, so it's going to be hard to claim that zand explanation is applicable to OP and would be repeated, normally one quotes something as a source, to back up your opinion and not to speculate.
it's up to Zand to give the opinion on OP, it's not really for you to speculate what will be said,

you might want to cite this as a source
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2444943/pdf/brmedj07161-0009.pdf
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Very true. I'm sure you can read 'Last edited by a moderator: Today at 6:24 PM' in my post, which removed the link to the thread he posted in.
PM them if you need to see his original post.
Until then, I'm sure you can speculate as to whether Zand is correct or not.

From your link, I would speculate you agree entirely with his explanation though.
 
douglas99 said:
Very true. I'm sure for can read 'Last edited by a moderator: Today at 6:24 PM' in my post, which removed the link to the thread he posted in.
PM them if you need to see his original post.
Until then, I'm sure you can speculate as to whether Zand is correct or not.
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No idea what that means mate.
 
jack412 said:
LOL..and what makes you think that has changed...:) if I have problems with your posts, you would know it, so one or both of us have changed from a few months ago

I find a lot of dougs posts argumentative and I would be interested in seeing the IP numbers that are auto recorded on each post, from several posters here, there seem to be a few dual acc kicking around

we all get our fingers smacked, I've had posted edited and messages sent, so I'm not holding myself as the standard...:bag:
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Standard what?
 
For goodness sakes. This is not a good thread to continue with this.



No it will not, so it stops now. This is a new members post and it wont be derailed by other members! RRB
 
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Hello Pdiabet . Have you decided to reduce your carbs again a little? I hope you are able to try to gradually increase them.
 
Pdiabet said:
I had strict lchf diet for 3 three weeks almost 30 gms carbs per day
When i introduced more carbs say 70 to 100 gms my sugar levels are shooting upto 180 @ 1 hour ppbs and 125@ 2 hour ppbs
What could be reason for higher bsl readings
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100g of carbs is more than I can eat in a Day.
 
Bluetit1802 said:
Hello and welcome.

Am I reading this right, that you only did the low carb diet for 3 weeks then introduced a load more carbs? I think you will find that the low carb diet is for life, not just 3 weeks. Your sugar levels are shooting up because you are eating too many carbs I'm afraid. Why did you introduce these extra carbs? Was there a special reason?
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I did not eat carbs more than 100 gms but still its happening
Even during earlier 3 weeks also i did not lose much weight hardly i lost a kg or so
May be my weight is already lower ie 60 kg
The moment i m starting carbs geater than 100 gms then its prob
Otherwise on very low carb its perfectly fine & sugar level remains constant at 83 to 90
My fsl level os ok ie 73 to 93
Pl advice
 
Pdiabet said:
I did not eat carbs more than 100 gms but still its happening
Even during earlier 3 weeks also i did not lose much weight hardly i lost a kg or so
May be my weight is already lower ie 60 kg
The moment i m starting carbs geater than 100 gms then its prob
Otherwise on very low carb its perfectly fine & sugar level remains constant at 83 to 90
My fsl level os ok ie 73 to 93
Pl advice
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I think to get the most out of diet, to give yourself the best chance to reduce your BG, insulin resistance and get rid of belly fat, to give your pancreas cells a chance to work.
stay under 100g of carb, I would go ketogenic and about 50g carb, 60g protein and top up the rest with healthy choice fats/oils
, till your weight is where you want it, hopefully then you can add some carbs without spiking too high
these sites helped me
http://www.dietdoctor.com/lchf
http://www.phlaunt.com/diabetes/14045524.php

http://www.myfitnesspal.com/

when you have your weight right and carbs raised to a level you can eat without feeling deprived..if your BG is too high then, you may need to look at meds
 
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