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LCHF diet to help you lose weight, not diabetes

izzzi said:
Your good knowledge and spreading advice is well timed when entered onto the forum which helps every one,you show us choice.
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As Loobles says, we all have the right to choose what we do with reality. We don't have the right to choose what that reality is. I choose how much of the low carb diet I follow. I don't have the right to choose whether or not low carb works -- it's pretty obvious that it does.
 
Hi Kat, I disagree with you on two points.

Firstly, when you are newly diagnosed, sometimes over the phone, you are in shock. The first thing you want to know is, right, how do I handle this disease and lower my high blood sugar? So in my opinion sharing what worked for me, you and all the others is vital as a first step.

Secondly, I don't think anyone is pushing anything - well possibly one member who I put on Ignore so wouldn't know much about what he is up to nowadays - but otherwise what we do is to share our experiences. Do you find that pushy?

And please don't go for the us and them line. There is no such thing. If you start on that line you will create a divide that really isn't there.
 
No not you personally, I mean the LCHF message on this forum, usually when a new member joins..
 
izzzi said:
No not you personally, I mean the LCHF message on this forum, usually when a new member joins..
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Oh right. OK. I think that's just because LCHF has helped so many of us, so there's always someone around to post about it. I don't think it's any more than that.
 
Hi totto , like diet we all have our different experiences of being diagnosed ......and yes fully agree with you about the shock ...and it is awful for everyone ...I can't agree with all you say though ...but those are my views ....the mind what we read and think can be so different to what we perceive when reading posts ...we all view things in different ways at different times for many reasons ....
sharing experiences is something I have always been a supporter of .....
 
that's me..
carbs are evil
cut grain, grain product, bread rice pasta etc, potato and sugary stuff..eat everything else.
eat lots of leafy veg, normal protein and healthy fats/oils, to replace the lost energy from the carbs

TBH most new T2 aren't anorexic and how much fats they eat aren't a big deal as far as health goes, as long as they get enough not to be cold or hungry..keep the body heat up
 
When you have followed what the good doctors tell you and you watch your diabetic control just get worse and worse, the discovery of simply lowering carbs is something of a eureka moment that you want to shout from the highest roof. I had wanted to cut my carbs since diagnosis in 1997 but religiously followed my doctor's advice although I didn't go as far as following the dieticians advice to increase my carb intake by eating more potato and buying thicker sliced bread. I wasted 16 years of my life following what my doctor told me to do, how stupid was I? If people don't want to listen and prefer to do what their doctors tell them, that's absolutely fine. I wasn't happy increasing my medication all the time and I have seen three relatives struggle to gain good control of their BG once on insulin (that's not to say everyone has that problem, my relatives all eat carbs like they're going out of fashion because they're told they can adjust their meds), I have found a solution to MY problem and I'm happy with that.
 
Don't accuse please...not necessary ...thanks
 
Yes @graj0 I followed what various doctors told me about weight loss for around 10 years before discovering that lowering carbs was the way forward. This was before I was diagnosed type 2 diabetic.
 
Totto said:
No, I don't accuse you but I wish you stay off the us and them theme.
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So now I can't express my own words ...
Give up ....
Can't make this any clearer there should be no us and them
 
That's the whole point. Yes, use your own words. But can't we too ?
 
Kat100 said:
So now I can't express my own words ...
Give up ....
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Have it your own way then.

Either you feel there is an usandthem situation in which case I point that out is confirming a fact and not an accusation so no need to accuse me of accusing you, or you don't feel the need to talk about usandthem in which case this discussion is purely stupid.

It would help if you were a tad clearer on what you mean at times.
 
If someone who doesn't low carb wants to post a helpful, constructive message to new members about their BG management choice and how it works for them, nobody is stopping you.

Otherwise, this thread is only reiterating familar arguments and positions, and perpetuating it is going to help those new members who might come across it on the first page how exactly? You were all paying attention towards the end of the 'losing the plot' thread weren't you?

I'm half-minded to report the OP for provocative pot-stirring. You can see the way it's going.
 
zand said:
Oh right. OK. I think that's just because LCHF has helped so many of us, so there's always someone around to post about it. I don't think it's any more than that.
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My problem might just be me missing or not seeing support from Diabetes .co.uk regarding LCHF.
It should not be that if you mention LCHF you become a trouble maker, Thank goodness I apologized in advance.
With me being on a vegan type diet I could do with a lamb shank right now.
 
I find this thread odd and a little pointless. Is there a reason for it ? I can understand low carb doesn't suit all and that's fine but from what I read a few are against it but offer no viable alternative ? I'd hate to ram a particular diet down someone's throat but to suggest newly diagnosed are not ready for dietary advice is ridiculous. That is exactly what they do want.
 
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zand said:
Yes @graj0 I followed what various doctors told me about weight loss for around 10 years before discovering that lowering carbs was the way forward. This was before I was diagnosed type 2 diabetic.
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I'm also very aware that we're all very different, that is something that this and other forums have shown me. Zand, so pleased that you have also found something that has helped you. I've been stuck on about 1,000 calories for 6 months now (BMR is 1900 before adjusting for exercise), may I go off topic and ask "any ideas?" Maybe I'll start a new topic, although not wishing to be big headed but I may have heard all there is to hear as to why plateaus occur. I'm even delving into the Krebs Cycle because mine is obviously broken. LOL All the best. Graham
 
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