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Lchf proposal in Au....,

Thanks @Cobia. That is music to one's ears, or a LCHF feast to one's eyes!! About b...... time!!
As others will know The Dietitians Association of Australia have been instrumental, i allege, in suppression of use of such diets in T2Ds and others for years, as they have been allied with the food industry and also influenced Aussie Food Guidelines for decades.
See Jennifer Elliott vs DAA. Note that the DAA renounced all association with food industry in late 2018, after their long time CEO retired. But no change in attitude towards LCHF diet has been lodged since.
Interesting to see what DAA's 'tune' will be in light of this newspaper article.
Has the worm finally turned?
Hopefully the weight of organisations like LowCarbDownUnder will help as well as all those disgruntled Aussie dietitians out there whose registering, Uni course accrediting and post-grad education controlling body, the DAA, i contend, has stopped them from prescribing a health-giving, medication-sparing and life prolonging diet for fear of de-registration!!
And thank you to the UK and DDM and Dr Unwin and practice for providing impetus to this proposed improvement and change.

Now the next battle will be about saturated fat and cholesterol. Let us see how the DAA, Big Food and Big Pharma deal with that.
I am glad that, like in many countries, a community spirit can sometimes at least put a leash on these dogs of ruin. Apologies to all canine friends!!
 
@kitedoc i think its earth shattering for t2 a leap in the right direction.


Good for everyone if we can get the DAA to agree with it. They have to accept hi carb diets dont work with diabetes...

Me ive been vlc for a year now it is doable even tho i was told not to even try it.
 
As far as I know, this is only the West Australian parliament and the report was produced by a parliamentary committee. Nothing happening on a federal level so far.
 
Indy51 said:
As far as I know, this is only the West Australian parliament and the report was produced by a parliamentary committee. Nothing happening on a federal level so far.
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Thank you for that clarification @Indy51, it maybe the thin edge of the wedge but any wedge is s start to overturning the shameful past !!
 
We tend to just follow what the US does... being the ADA in the US has apparently added low carb as an option (unless I'm wrong?) then it may be a case of following suit at some point.
 
Indy51 said:
As far as I know, this is only the West Australian parliament and the report was produced by a parliamentary committee. Nothing happening on a federal level so far.
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In the link posted by the Op, there doesn't appear to be any mention of the West Australian government. There is talk in it about a committee producing a report for the Australian parliament recommending national dietary guidelines for T2. Obviously, a state government wouldn't be making national decisions. So this could well be a national thing.

Although the article isn't exactly very clear, but fingers crossed.
 
Well, there was publicity about the report/committee a while back and Dr Unwin was involved - he hosted the committee members when they went to the UK.

The details can be found on the WA Govt website: http://www.parliament.wa.gov.au/par...44D0D4EEDB83D60C482582F20028F824?opendocument

The report, called "The Food Fix" can also be downloaded there.

I'm sure there has been a post about this a while back on the forum.
 
Indy51 said:
Well, there was publicity about the report/committee a while back and Dr Unwin was involved - he hosted the committee members when they went to the UK.

The details can be found on the WA Govt website: http://www.parliament.wa.gov.au/par...44D0D4EEDB83D60C482582F20028F824?opendocument

The report, called "The Food Fix" can also be downloaded there.

I'm sure there has been a post about this a while back on the forum.
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Yeah, was posted a while back.... the lack of clarity on whether or not this is the same thing could be in part due to the OP's article being written by an American, in Philadelphia, who probably isn't familiar with things in Australia. It is lacking.

This apparently is Diabetes Australia's position statement as of last year.

https://static.diabetesaustralia.co...alia/8b4a8a54-f6b0-4ce6-bfc2-159686db7983.pdf
 
Tophat1900 said:
We tend to just follow what the US does... being the ADA in the US has apparently added low carb as an option (unless I'm wrong?) then it may be a case of following suit at some point.
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Is that just low carb or vlc?

I have a dietitian now that supports low carb vlc to her is a little different i was told to have a carby meal every now and then to fuel the liver.... to me thats contradictory.
 
Cobia said:
Is that just low carb or vlc?

I have a dietitian now that supports low carb vlc to her is a little different i was told to have a carby meal every now and then to fuel the liver.... to me thats contradictory.
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No idea why you'd need a carby meal (Whatever that means) to fuel the liver, if you are following low carb and happy with the results, why eat a carby meal to throw off the results?
 
@Tophat1900 Thats what i thought too. She was hinting at insulin..... my thoughts are you go low from too much insulin. Which has to match liver output.... what do i know cant argue with a dietitian im only a diabetic. :)
 
Cobia said:
Funny issnt it its you can do it but only if you want to.:angelic:


Guess thats why each of us have to make that decision for our selves.
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The impression I got from reading it is that they are acknowledging low carb, but not really wanting to. Still pushing the sat fat will kill you BS and only going so far as to admit LC works for weightless and improved sugar control, but only for the first 6 months... I mean, seriously?

The statement made that low carb is as effect as high carb diet advice is plain ludicrous. And the advice for low carb in the statement includes grains and fruits etc as being healthy.

It seems clear to me they are wording the position statement in a manner to put people off trying low carb, which I think they've got some nerve to pull that kind of bias rubbish.
 
There are two Dietitians listed on the Diabetes Australia Statement on low carb diet and they are likely to be registered with DAA.
I cannot find it at the moment but DAA last year put out a statement about low carb diet which sounds very close to the above DA statement above.
And given DAA's actions in the past in deregistering 2 dietitians at least, plus trying to get a dietitian registering and working NZ to be deregistered and being instrumrntal in sanctions against Dr Gary Fettke, an Aussie orthooaedic surgeon regarding low carb diet plus DAA's control over undergraduate curriculum in Dietetics courses in Oz, plus control of postgraduate eduction of regisotered dietitians, there maybe little incentive for Aussie trained and registered dietitians to be prescribing lchf diets to diabetics, particularly children, adolescents and preganat women with diabetes.
Those dietitians who are members of LowCarbDownUnder are in private practice and not affiliated with DAA.
BUT apparently a ketogenic diet is helpful for those with epilepsy, including children and adolescents so one presumes there is some with epilepsy and diabetes on such diets here in Oz?
 
kitedoc said:
There are two Dietitians listed on the Diabetes Australia Statement on low carb diet and they are likely to be registered with DAA.
I cannot find it at the moment but DAA last year put out a statement about low carb diet which sounds very close to the above DA statement above.
And given DAA's actions in the past in deregistering 2 dietitians at least, plus trying to get a dietitian registering and working NZ to be deregistered and being instrumrntal in sanctions against Dr Gary Fettke, an Aussie orthooaedic surgeon regarding low carb diet plus DAA's control over undergraduate curriculum in Dietetics courses in Oz, plus control of postgraduate eduction of regisotered dietitians, there maybe little incentive for Aussie trained and registered dietitians to be prescribing lchf diets to diabetics, particularly children, adolescents and preganat women with diabetes.
Those dietitians who are members of LowCarbDownUnder are in private practice and not affiliated with DAA.
BUT apparently a ketogenic diet is helpful for those with epilepsy, including children and adolescents so one presumes there is some with epilepsy and diabetes on such diets here in Oz?
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The DAA have a lot of power, and you know what they say about absolute power.
 
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