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Type 2 Lchf

James1968

James1968

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Type of diabetes
Type 2
Been on this for probs a week now, bs has dropped but I don't feel any better, I probably feel worse tbh
will this get any better in the long run?
 
Felt a bit run down first few days plus a headache and coughing.
Now I just don't seem to have the same energy I used to have.
Read that it only lasts for a few days but in some cases up to 3 weeks.
I told myself I would give it a good go and give it 100% for up to 2 months.
So carrying on with it for at least that amount of time.
 
What was your diet like before ? And now? How many carbs are you aiming for? Are you eating too much fat? Too much protein?
Personally I don't do well with lots of animal fat. I do much better with avocado, olive oil, mayo and some nuts and seeds. I don't do well with slabs of protein either.

Is it digestion? Fatigue? What isn't feeling well and how are your bloods? If they've dropped a lot while starting that could effect you as well

Frank, what type of diabetic are you and are you on meds?
 
Two common problems when starting LCHF.
  • Not drinking enough water so drink more.
  • Not having enough salt, as it is very likely your meals now have less salt in them, and a little more salt is needed on LCHF anyway. I find a stock cube (or marmite) in a cup of hot water two times a day sorts this out.
 
frankbegbie said:
Felt a bit run down first few days plus a headache and coughing.
Now I just don't seem to have the same energy I used to have.
Read that it only lasts for a few days but in some cases up to 3 weeks.
I told myself I would give it a good go and give it 100% for up to 2 months.
So carrying on with it for at least that amount of time.
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I agree with @ringi with the fluids and salt. Are you sure you're not coming down with a cold? ''Tis the season....
 
James1968 said:
Been on this for probs a week now, bs has dropped but I don't feel any better, I probably feel worse tbh
will this get any better in the long run?
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Short answer, yes.

Your body is tackling a big change and is searching for its usual high carb fix for its energy. Stick with it, it gets easier over time.
 
Kristin251 said:
What was your diet like before ? And now? How many carbs are you aiming for? Are you eating too much fat? Too much protein?
Personally I don't do well with lots of animal fat. I do much better with avocado, olive oil, mayo and some nuts and seeds. I don't do well with slabs of protein either.

Is it digestion? Fatigue? What isn't feeling well and how are your bloods? If they've dropped a lot while starting that could effect you as well

Frank, what type of diabetic are you and are you on meds?
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Type 2. Not on any meds, trying to solve things through diet.
Funnily enough I started feeling pretty good after coming back from a swim earlier
and having something to eat.
Maybe the start of something good.
I feel getting enough sleep is vital for me, but having to go to the toilet up to 4 times a night doesn't help.
Had to have a little sleep in the afternoon yesterday.
Should be ok today though as I only got up twice in the night.
 
Hi @James1968 and @frankbegbie

Sounds like 'carb flu' or withdrawal from carbs. Took me a while - a few weeks - to start feeling really good but it's so worth it. Now have much more energy and far less hunger. If your numbers are improving it's worth persevering.
 
ringi said:
Two common problems when starting LCHF.
  • Not drinking enough water so drink more.
  • Not having enough salt, as it is very likely your meals now have less salt in them, and a little more salt is needed on LCHF anyway. I find a stock cube (or marmite) in a cup of hot water two times a day sorts this out.
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You are so right there. I was getting cramps last week in the calf of my leg at night. I read somewhere that on a low carb diet people do not consume as much salt and can be the cause of cramps. I started to add a little salt to my low carb diet and have not had any since
 
frankbegbie said:
Type 2. Not on any meds, trying to solve things through diet.
Funnily enough I started feeling pretty good after coming back from a swim earlier
and having something to eat.
Maybe the start of something good.
I feel getting enough sleep is vital for me, but having to go to the toilet up to 4 times a night doesn't help.
Had to have a little sleep in the afternoon yesterday.
Should be ok today though as I only got up twice in the night.
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Glad your feeling better. If you were high carb and really reduced them then it's probably carb flu.
Another possibility is if you stopped eating breads and glutenous grains you're probably detoxing those as well. That's a nasty detox. Loads of people are intolerant to gluten/wheat/ grains and don't realize it. Once they quit, even inadvertently due to low carbs they feel awful until its out of their systems.

You may have turned a corner. Don't forget some good healthy fats. No need to gib them. Just normal amounts.

Give your body a chance to catch up with all these changes. Sounds like you're willing too!!! Good for you for no bailing!!

What is your carb goal?
 
Kristin251 said:
Glad your feeling better. If you were high carb and really reduced them then it's probably carb flu.
Another possibility is if you stopped eating breads and glutenous grains you're probably detoxing those as well. That's a nasty detox. Loads of people are intolerant to gluten/wheat/ grains and don't realize it. Once they quit, even inadvertently due to low carbs they feel awful until its out of their systems.

You may have turned a corner. Don't forget some good healthy fats. No need to gib them. Just normal amounts.

Give your body a chance to catch up with all these changes. Sounds like you're willing too!!! Good for you for no bailing!!

What is your carb goal?
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Not really counting them I just put the veg on the plate till it looks enough plus the meat.
Cabbage, Broccolli, Swede, Spinach.
Minced Beef , Belly Pork , good quality Sausages, Chicken Thighs.
Also add a bit of butter to the veg.

Still in the proces of sorting my diet out; bit of trial and error.
Not having any snacks up to now.
We'll see in the weeks to come wether I'm doing the right things.
 
It might be wiser to actually weigh and calculate the carbs you are eating as low carb can be very effective and cause rapid weightloss, or you can underestimate the amounts and be going nowhere - once you see how things are going then there isn't the same need, but it is advisable to work from knowledge.
 
frankbegbie said:
Not really counting them I just put the veg on the plate till it looks enough plus the meat.
Cabbage, Broccolli, Swede, Spinach.
Minced Beef , Belly Pork , good quality Sausages, Chicken Thighs.
Also add a bit of butter to the veg.

Still in the proces of sorting my diet out; bit of trial and error.
Not having any snacks up to now.
We'll see in the weeks to come wether I'm doing the right things.
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Meat and veg sound perfect. I assume you e eliminated lots of carbs? Just an FYI, excess protein CAN turn to bs. 58% so over eating protein is not recommended. Although as a type 2 you may not have issues.
I need to take insulin for 50% of my protein as I am vlc and protein does require insulin, though I don't make any lol. Not really but kinda funny :)
 
Agree with the salt and water - I use "LoSalt" as it has a better balance of minerals. Also, I take magnesium at bed time to help with cramps. My low carb flu settled down after a couple of weeks - the support on this forum really helped me to keep going. Having gone through the "flu" has helped me to continue to avoid the carbs as I don't want to have to go through it again! How much energy you will get depends on the individual, for me the best thing has been a reduction in pain and inflammation
 
Well after trying the different breakfast, ( avacado, Porridge with some allbran, four crumpets with cheese on),
I felt just the same.
Walking slow when out with the dog, leg fatigue when cycling to the swimming pool and only being able to swim
at a reduced pace.
4 pieces of belly pork 1 chicken thigh and 2 sausages for dinner, feel no better.
Out with the dog again and only able to walk slowly.
Getting depressed now.
One more week and I should know.
 
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