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Light bulb moment/confession time

Kailee56

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Type of diabetes
LADA
Treatment type
Diet only
I saw the numbers, glucose dropped 105 or 5.82 in one hour, bottomed out at 38 or 2.1, and received the diagnosis of reactive hypoglycemia, but felt left out. All these symptoms every one mentioned, yet I couldn’t identify.
- Sure I get tired and grouchy, but I work nights. I’m always tired and grouchy.
- OK, I can feel a bit anxious, irritable, and hyper at work, where I am most likely to eat off plan, but I’m an ICU nurse and the job is stressful.
- I do get cold extremities, but so do all the women in my family. Hot water bottles are our friends.
- Blurry vision? Hello, I’ve worn glasses most of my life due to Astigmatism aka the vision of Monet. My vision is never truly clear, even with new glasses.
On and on, poor me. :(

Last night, after dinner out, I really wanted a cookie. My freezer is currently full of meat, love sales, so I knew I didn’t have any appropriate substitute at home. Stopped by the store, after all I just wanted one cookie.....but the bakery area was closed and they would only sell by the box of 12. So, I left with a box of heath bar (chocolate covered toffee) cookies. I slowly savored one, thought I could put the rest in the fridge, but ate one more. Blood glucose not great, but not terrible.

A few hours later, the cookies were calling. By the time I went to bed, I had eaten most of the box, put the rest in the garbage, and smashed them to prevent further eating. Yes, I have to treat myself like a child. Self control is not my middle name. Blood glucose? Yikes! Let’s just say it was quite high.

Slept a few hours and woke up angry, hot, sweaty, ripping off blankets, a bit crazed,.....at the same time I had an Ah-Ha moment. OMG, of course I don’t have symptoms. If I eat carbs, I just keep eating every few hours until I go to bed. I can time my hypo by when I wake up crazy, sweaty, angry, and aggressively taking my anger out on the pillows and blankets. Did I get up, go downstairs, and check my glucose to verify? No. I would have fallen down those stairs. However this also explains why I could never eat after work. If I did, I would wake up about 3 hours later to eat again, and a few hours after that, and never get sleep.

I feel like I just found the village’s lost idiot, me.

Guess I should be glad I never bottomed into a coma.....though I do recall times after strenous exercise, something that spikes my glucose, when I pretty much passed out for a few hours. Oops!
 
It took many of us decades to connect the dots...

RH is too often being dismissed as just part of growth spurts...we totally under estimate the power of wild swings in insulin responses...
 
Dr Ted Naiman illustrate it well here...

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I saw the numbers, glucose dropped 105 or 5.82 in one hour, bottomed out at 38 or 2.1, and received the diagnosis of reactive hypoglycemia, but felt left out. All these symptoms every one mentioned, yet I couldn’t identify.
- Sure I get tired and grouchy, but I work nights. I’m always tired and grouchy.
- OK, I can feel a bit anxious, irritable, and hyper at work, where I am most likely to eat off plan, but I’m an ICU nurse and the job is stressful.
- I do get cold extremities, but so do all the women in my family. Hot water bottles are our friends.
- Blurry vision? Hello, I’ve worn glasses most of my life due to Astigmatism aka the vision of Monet. My vision is never truly clear, even with new glasses.
On and on, poor me. :(

Last night, after dinner out, I really wanted a cookie. My freezer is currently full of meat, love sales, so I knew I didn’t have any appropriate substitute at home. Stopped by the store, after all I just wanted one cookie.....but the bakery area was closed and they would only sell by the box of 12. So, I left with a box of heath bar (chocolate covered toffee) cookies. I slowly savored one, thought I could put the rest in the fridge, but ate one more. Blood glucose not great, but not terrible.

A few hours later, the cookies were calling. By the time I went to bed, I had eaten most of the box, put the rest in the garbage, and smashed them to prevent further eating. Yes, I have to treat myself like a child. Self control is not my middle name. Blood glucose? Yikes! Let’s just say it was quite high.

Slept a few hours and woke up angry, hot, sweaty, ripping off blankets, a bit crazed,.....at the same time I had an Ah-Ha moment. OMG, of course I don’t have symptoms. If I eat carbs, I just keep eating every few hours until I go to bed. I can time my hypo by when I wake up crazy, sweaty, angry, and aggressively taking my anger out on the pillows and blankets. Did I get up, go downstairs, and check my glucose to verify? No. I would have fallen down those stairs. However this also explains why I could never eat after work. If I did, I would wake up about 3 hours later to eat again, and a few hours after that, and never get sleep.

I feel like I just found the village’s lost idiot, me.

Guess I should be glad I never bottomed into a coma.....though I do recall times after strenous exercise, something that spikes my glucose, when I pretty much passed out for a few hours. Oops!

Hopefully, now that you realise that the enemy (carbs and temptation) are never far away, and having them makes you ill, then you can plan your way ahead.

I work full time (on my dinner break) and I can fast or have something low carb that won't upset my bloods. Today, I've just ate a ham salad despite it being really cold and snowy.

As a nurse, what sort of support do you get from your colleagues?

You do realise that medical advice is usually the eat complex carbs mantra, don't you?

If you find your balance, your sleep deprivation will improve, I find that being in ketosis helps so much with going to deep, restful sleep.

You are not an idiot, just a bit weird, because of the RH!

Best wishes.
 
Thanks for the reply’s. It really means a lot to me, knowing I’m not going it alone.

Knowing something on an intellectual level is vastly different than on an experiential level. That is the dot that just got connected. Feels like I just got whacked up the side of my head. Really wish I had known this years ago. Especially looking back. It explains so many things. Actually, I can’t see any part of my life that it hasn’t effected, in retrospect.

As for support at work? Nurses are an odd bunch and I work in a hospital with a high staff turnover and frequent understaffing. The attitude is more, if you can’t do the job without help, you need a different job. Even the employee health nurse once told me she was sick of staff injuries since we do it to ourselves. Empathy and support tends to be used for patients, not co-workers.

Gotta laugh at the just weird comment. My middle name may not be self control, but I have always said it must be Abby, as in normal. I tend to be the outlier for most things. Always missing that bell curve. :).

Have my first dietitian consult next week. Already planning my arguments in support of nutritional ketosis. Carbs are definitely not my friend. If I had a printer, I would probably walk in with a stack of research articles.
 
Totally agree with the nutritionists.
The one my specialist endocrinologist worked with was very uncomfortable with recommending very low carb, never mind being in ketosis.
You get used to the colleagues poking fun and asking stupid questions about what you eat, don't forget to buy the cakes on birthdays and so on!

Knowing why it happens is a must!

Do let us know how you get on.

Best wishes
 
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