Hi Brunneria,
Sorry I only kept this one as I had to read it a few times to understand it, its pretty dry going. I had to research a some of the terms and concepts looking for something to refute its findings. maybe you will have more success.
One of the conclusions is Keto does not help you loose weight. It helps you
not gain weight &
gives you more energy. As a result you are likely to exercise more and thus weight loss as a side effect.
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2980360/
Thanks for the link.
I have had a look through, but with all respect to your efforts on ploughing through every word, plus doing research on terms, there was enough in the first paragraph of the link to stop me reading with a screech of tyres.
My reasoning for this is twofold:
Firstly the study was on mice.
Yes, I recognise that experiments on mice and rats and other animals is cheaper and quicker than on humans. You can also kill them and extract their fatty (or non-fatty) livers at any point, without those irritating questions of ethics when experimenting on humans. (whilst ignoring those irritating questions on the ethics of experimenting on animals, of course)
However, mice are not humans. They never will be. They are therefore not going to demonstrate the same results that a human would. The natural diet of a mouse is very different from that of a modern human, especially one in the Western world.
Secondly, have you ever researched what goes into lab mouse 'Chow'?
It is horrific. Even the 'Keto Chow' is dreadful. Processed. Standardised. Chock full of stuff that shouldn't be considered food for any living creature. (Yup, I am the kind of person who feeds their dogs raw prey model food because I see visible benefits to their health when I do so)
https://www.the-scientist.com/?arti...600/title/Inside-a-Lab-Mouse-s-High-Fat-Diet/
I think that mouse and rat experiments are usually just a way for scientists to test theories in order to get further funding in the hope of going on to human trials. I understand that this is the way things work. I dislike it. And I acknowledge that my personal dislike is not going to change the situation. But it means that whenever I read a study involving rats, mice, processed lab Chow and comparisons with humans, I just dismiss them. There are too many variables. Too many differences between species. And even if you set those aside, there are huge variations between humans. I just don't accept that a small laboratory controlled study with mice eating that Chow should be extrapolated into advising me (with my unique genetics, health issues and lifestyle) on the macronutrients of my real food, human grade food choices.
Obviously, if those same scientists continue their research and conduct a long term study on humans eating human grade real food, then I will take some notice. But I will still temper my interest with personal knowledge of what works for me. We all exist on a bell curve, and those who sit comfortably in the middle of that curve should count themselves very lucky.