Lipohypertrophy vs Lipodystrophy

Barnardine

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Like most T1Ds, on diagnosis I was advised to rotate injection sites to avoid the risk of Lipodystrophy. However, the most recent clinical guide to Diabetes - ISBN 9781118976043, published this year - states (p. 92) that "Lipodystrophy (localised subcutaneous fat loss) is rarely seen with modern insulins." Instead "Repeated injection into the same subcutaneous site may, in the long term, give rise to a local accumulation of fat, Lipohypertrophy, because of the local trophic action of insulin". The pictures in the book suggest that rotation to the extent of varying injection site on the abdomen alone is insufficient to prevent Lipohypertrophy, and instead the ideal would be to vary location on the body, e.g. thighs, arms, in addition to the more typical abdomen. The obvious concern is the different absorption profiles for different areas of the body, increasing the complexity and/or unpredictability of bolus injections, already variable enough. (thankfully, long term basals like Tresiba can be injected almost anywhere without adverse effect). So I've been wondering roughly to what extent do T1Ds on MDI vary injection site on average? For instance, do you tend only to vary the location on the abdomen, or do you regularly vary location on the body too?
 

Daibell

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Hi. Traditionally I have used both stomach and outer thighs but have found in recent months that the absorption rate thru those areas has become slower due to the change in the flesh profile. I've recently added upper arms and that has helped more reliable absorption. I'm also extending the area of the stomach covered.
 

Barnardine

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Hi. Traditionally I have used both stomach and outer thighs but have found in recent months that the absorption rate thru those areas has become slower due to the change in the flesh profile. I've recently added upper arms and that has helped more reliable absorption. I'm also extending the area of the stomach covered.
Thanks, do you find injection in upper arms to be more or less predictable as injection in the abdomen? And I assume the response is more delayed?
 

StewM

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Thanks, do you find injection in upper arms to be more or less predictable as injection in the abdomen? And I assume the response is more delayed?
A recent study (can't remember where it was published, but it was in 2019 I believe) found that injecting into the arms had unpredictable absorption results compared to other sites and as such it's generally advised to avoid the Arms as an Injection site.
 

Barnardine

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A recent study (can't remember where it was published, but it was in 2019 I believe) found that injecting into the arms had unpredictable absorption results compared to other sites and as such it's generally advised to avoid the Arms as an Injection site.
Thanks for the info. I also read something in a recent study that I hadn't heard either. Apparently when it comes to injecting in the abdomen, injecting in the area above the naval as oppose to below results in significantly faster onset of insulin.
 

Daibell

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Thanks, do you find injection in upper arms to be more or less predictable as injection in the abdomen? And I assume the response is more delayed?
At the moment it appears to be more predictable as the area is 'virgin' territory. It's difficult to tell whether there is more delay. I would rather have some extra delay rather than the insulin languishing in damaged flesh and with very unpredictable timing.
 

bmtest

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For me Lipodystrophy caused the diabetes so I have no adipose tissue anyway, so absorption rate varies. For last 40+ years rotate down thighs and if I am out and about I do the stomach.