Type 1 Liver

Understood, but isn't that a technique to fatten up the foul's liver for consumption.. (Usually with corn.)
Nothing to do with the mechanics of a "liver dump."

 

This is where I am confused @Listlad reference to the pancreas? Quoted above.
"We wouldn't need insulin." The pancreas's fuction or "non function" with T1.

Then mention of fatted foul (goose or duck) liver for consumption..? In pate?)

I sincerely hope @SueJB can clarify??

All I know is the liver dumps & makes demands on a fixed dose of basal (With MDI.) in the absence of pancreatic insulin production (or for the insulin resistant?) thus raising BG.. A correction with exogenous fast acting insulin should remedy this for the ID in the absence of working beta cells.. But not always easy to get right..

From what I gather though, liver dump is a natural process (or should be?) for all. (There are also some stores in the muscle tissue too?)

 

Now oddly, 2/3am is where I am likely to dip on a fixed dosage of lantus.. (Not sure if you pump or not?)

My work day? I eat around 9.30 starting work @6.30. I don't bother eating on a later break but when I finish by 3pm? I can get another low in the hour period after clocking off.? (Any bolus is long out the system.)

I always blamed the lantus working profile? But maybe not.

 

The need for basal insulin all day in T1's (be it by long acting insulin through injection or a steady drip through a pump) suggests that the liver provides a steady glucose input all day.
What makes you say what you feel is liver dump and not the effect of low glucose?

 

I have been known to dip very low and be quite fine, but when my liver enters the action, I have a funny feeling in my throat. My blood glucose isn't necessarily awfully low at that point.

At this point, I don't worry about it too much.

 

It does, or what do you take your basal for?

 

The liver dump is kind of a flight or "fight response" in the absence of a certain level of BG? Be it waking for work first thing or confronting a "geezer" in the pub over an accidental "spilled pint." (Stress.) unless where alcohol is consumed which stunts liver dump? Metformin acts the same way but also increasing insulin sensitivity..

Sorry, I wasn't clear, I totally agree with you on your clarity regarding muscle tissue glycogen..
Lol, hence the "geezer down the pub." & possibly reported outstanding cases of "super human" strength under duress? (Rescuing someone trapped under a car.)

 

A little basal testing may help you understand?

 

As far as I know the liver dumps steadily all day (hence the need for basal) and may dump more in certain situations like waking up or an adrenalin surge.
However, SueJB asked

and the anwer is that it does dump throughout the day.

 

@Antje77 , during a hypo the body is under a simalar duress? The liver does what it can & "buffers" the low BG. Though, with exogenous insulin....?? Who knows where it may go..? I've checked my BP (blood pressure.) whilst hypo. I'm in "survival mode" whilst fighting the urge to consume fast acting carbs...