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Loosing weight while on medications!

Ta1357

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Hi, I’ve joined this site to get more information about effect of dieting and exercise on reversing type 2 diabetes!! I am a biomedical scientist and I do believe that there is relationship between dieting, exercising and controlling blood sugar! My beloved husband has been diagnosed with type 2 diabetes since 2002. He's been on Metformin since 2005. He is overweight! In 2008, By losing 10% of his weight and exercise he managed to reduce his Metformin tablets to once per day. However, since 2 years ago, after death of his dad, he stopped exercise and controlling his diet. Therefore, after his last check up, he’s been put on Gliclazide once per day and Metformin twice daily. Without any dieting or exercise his blood sugar is now very low! Recently, he feels so determine to start losing his extra weight as well as having regular exercise! just wondering it is possible to go on diet while taking Gliclazide first thing in the morning after breakfast! I really need to boost his confident. His diabetic nurse does not seem to believe in dieting and exercise! He says that this is a progressive process and he needs to move on to the next medications by time! But I’m kind of sure if he starts dieting and exercise again he won’t need any second medication! Looking forward to hearing from you with more experience...
Thanks
 
Hi welcome to the forum - I will tag @daisy1 who welcomes our newbies with some great info - as to your question about losing weight on gliclizide - yes it is very doable I lost my weight whilst taking it(over 11st). Maybe with a bit of weight loss and a lower carb diet your hubby may be able to ditch the glic - unfortunately for me I managed to greatly reduce my meds but not to drop that last little 40g twice a day - I am probably too far down the line?

Lots n here including myself disagree it's progressive if you can get good control - there is many here on this forum that can give good anecdotal evidence of that. Have a read round the forum - especially the low carb recipe thread - it's not really a diet but a lifestyle change - once you can get your head round that it becomes a lot clearer
 
Hi @Ta1357 - I wonder why your husbands diabetic nurse is not encouraging your husband in taking steps to improve his health, that seems quite extraordinary. When I was diagnosed it was positively encouraged to exercise more and adjust your diet (although the advice on diet was the standard eat well plate that did not work for me). Your husband needs support in his efforts to turn things around, but it is probably advisable to discuss any changes he is making with his medical team as his medication may need monitoring and adjusting along the way.
 
Hi and welcome. It's sad that the DN doesn't understand the importance of diet and exercise; it's part of her job to cover this. Be aware that Gliclazide can cause low blood sugar and even hypos if the dose is too high as it stimulates the pancreas to produce more insulin. Try to get hubbie to have that low-carb diet and exercise and adjust the medication if needed.
 
Hi @Ta1357 - I wonder why your husbands diabetic nurse is not encouraging your husband in taking steps to improve his health, that seems quite extraordinary. When I was diagnosed it was positively encouraged to exercise more and adjust your diet (although the advice on diet was the standard eat well plate that did not work for me). Your husband needs support in his efforts to turn things around, but it is probably advisable to discuss any changes he is making with his medical team as his medication may need monitoring and adjusting along the way.
Hi welcome to the forum - I will tag @daisy1 who welcomes our newbies with some great info - as to your question about losing weight on gliclizide - yes it is very doable I lost my weight whilst taking it(over 11st). Maybe with a bit of weight loss and a lower carb diet your hubby may be able to ditch the glic - unfortunately for me I managed to greatly reduce my meds but not to drop that last little 40g twice a day - I am probably too far down the line?

Lots n here including myself disagree it's progressive if you can get good control - there is many here on this forum that can give good anecdotal evidence of that. Have a read round the forum - especially the low carb recipe thread - it's not really a diet but a lifestyle change - once you can get your head round that it becomes a lot clearer
Thank you and well done to you.... so glad that you got in touch with me :) I'm sure it is possible... I just don't know how to convince him! I wish I was able to make him join this forum. But meanwhile it seems I have to get enough confident and information to transfer it to him! since I am the person who plan every day food, can I ask for your advice about which diet you followed to lose over 11 st?! Thanks
 
Hi @Ta1357 - I wonder why your husbands diabetic nurse is not encouraging your husband in taking steps to improve his health, that seems quite extraordinary. When I was diagnosed it was positively encouraged to exercise more and adjust your diet (although the advice on diet was the standard eat well plate that did not work for me). Your husband needs support in his efforts to turn things around, but it is probably advisable to discuss any changes he is making with his medical team as his medication may need monitoring and adjusting along the way.
He used to have a great GP which even reduced his medications after losing 10% weight! very encouraging. But with the new one not sure! I'm so determine to find a goos dieting program which I can implace for all of us :)
 
Hi and welcome. It's sad that the DN doesn't understand the importance of diet and exercise; it's part of her job to cover this. Be aware that Gliclazide can cause low blood sugar and even hypos if the dose is too high as it stimulates the pancreas to produce more insulin. Try to get hubbie to have that low-carb diet and exercise and adjust the medication if needed.
It's exactly my concern as I know all about how it works. If he is not taking carbs through the day why he should take this?! even after consumption of starchy food, when I check his blood sugar is around 5! my hubby is on 80 mg per day at the moment! But he is watching his diet since he started this! But my concern is how I should know if diet is working or its medication! unless he stop taking it and we can check it!
 
@Ta1357

Hello and welcome to the forum :) Here is the information, mentioned above, which will help you to help your husband. Ask as many questions as you want and someone will be able to answer.


BASIC INFORMATION FOR NEW MEMBERS

Diabetes is the general term to describe people who have blood that is sweeter than normal. A number of different types of diabetes exist.

A diagnosis of diabetes tends to be a big shock for most of us. It’s far from the end of the world though and on this forum you’ll find over 150,000 people who are demonstrating this.

On the forum we have found that with the number of new people being diagnosed with diabetes each day, sometimes the NHS is not being able to give all the advice it would perhaps like to deliver - particularly with regards to people with type 2 diabetes.

The role of carbohydrate

Carbohydrates are a factor in diabetes because they ultimately break down into sugar (glucose) within our blood. We then need enough insulin to either convert the blood sugar into energy for our body, or to store the blood sugar as body fat.

If the amount of carbohydrate we take in is more than our body’s own (or injected) insulin can cope with, then our blood sugar will rise.

The bad news

Research indicates that raised blood sugar levels over a period of years can lead to organ damage, commonly referred to as diabetic complications.

The good news

People on the forum here have shown that there is plenty of opportunity to keep blood sugar levels from going too high. It’s a daily task but it’s within our reach and it’s well worth the effort.

Controlling your carbs

The info below is primarily aimed at people with type 2 diabetes, however, it may also be of benefit for other types of diabetes as well.
There are two approaches to controlling your carbs:

  • Reduce your carbohydrate intake
  • Choose ‘better’ carbohydrates

Reduce your carbohydrates

A large number of people on this forum have chosen to reduce the amount of carbohydrates they eat as they have found this to be an effective way of improving (lowering) their blood sugar levels.

The carbohydrates which tend to have the most pronounced effect on blood sugar levels tend to be starchy carbohydrates such as rice, pasta, bread, potatoes and similar root vegetables, flour based products (pastry, cakes, biscuits, battered food etc) and certain fruits.

Choosing better carbohydrates

Another option is to replace ‘white carbohydrates’ (such as white bread, white rice, white flour etc) with whole grain varieties. The idea behind having whole grain varieties is that the carbohydrates get broken down slower than the white varieties –and these are said to have a lower glycaemic index.
http://www.diabetes.co.uk/food/diabetes-and-whole-grains.html

The low glycaemic index diet is often favoured by healthcare professionals but some people with diabetes find that low GI does not help their blood sugar enough and may wish to cut out these foods altogether.

Read more on carbohydrates and diabetes

LOW CARB PROGRAM:
http://www.diabetes.co.uk/low carb program


Eating what works for you

Different people respond differently to different types of food. What works for one person may not work so well for another. The best way to see which foods are working for you is to test your blood sugar with a glucose meter.

To be able to see what effect a particular type of food or meal has on your blood sugar is to do a test before the meal and then test after the meal. A test 2 hours after the meal gives a good idea of how your body has reacted to the meal.

The blood sugar ranges recommended by NICE are as follows:

Blood glucose ranges for type 2 diabetes
  • Before meals: 4 to 7 mmol/l
  • 2 hours after meals: under 8.5 mmol/l
Blood glucose ranges for type 1 diabetes (adults)
  • Before meals: 4 to 7 mmol/l
  • 2 hours after meals: under 9 mmol/l
Blood glucose ranges for type 1 diabetes (children)
  • Before meals: 4 to 8 mmol/l
  • 2 hours after meals: under 10 mmol/l
However, those that are able to, may wish to keep blood sugar levels below the NICE after meal targets.

Access to blood glucose test strips

The NICE guidelines suggest that people newly diagnosed with type 2 diabetes should be offered:

  • structured education to every person and/or their carer at and around the time of diagnosis, with annual reinforcement and review
  • self-monitoring of plasma glucose to a person newly diagnosed with type 2 diabetes only as an integral part of his or her self-management education

Therefore both structured education and self-monitoring of blood glucose should be offered to people with type 2 diabetes. Read more on getting access to bloodglucose testing supplies.

You may also be interested to read questions to ask at a diabetic clinic

Note: This post has been edited from Sue/Ken's post to include up to date information.
 
It's exactly my concern as I know all about how it works. If he is not taking carbs through the day why he should take this?! even after consumption of starchy food, when I check his blood sugar is around 5! my hubby is on 80 mg per day at the moment! But he is watching his diet since he started this! But my concern is how I should know if diet is working or its medication! unless he stop taking it and we can check it!
It's not for me to say, but Gliclazide with an overweight T2 doesn't seem to quite fit? Many T2s with excess weight will be insulin resistant and hence have excess natural insulin that the body can't metabolise well. If that is so, Gliclazide could achieve little. Metformin will usually help a bit in that situation. Sounds like you may have to discuss this with the GP and ensure the Glic dose doesn't push blood sugar too low. Based on posts I've seen over the years, many GPs start 'everyone' on Metformin and when that doesn't solve the problem they may just add Glic regardless of thinking about the problem they are trying to solve. But I'm merely an amateur of course :)
 
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