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Type 2 lots of questions from a newly diagnosed type 2

loulou5590

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Type of diabetes
Type 2
Treatment type
Tablets (oral)
as the title says im newly diagnosed type 2 (litterally day before new years eve) and i have a lot of questions,
first is it normal for my blood sugar to constantly go up and down through out the day, even going up while i sleep?
will i have to be on medication all my life?
what do i eat before exercise? ( i play basket ball once a week with some friends for about an hour)
is pain normal?(i have shooting pains down one arm, may be coincidence but it started the day after i started taking tablets
i feel very tired early evening, been checking my blood sugar as normal and its the lowest its been all day yet im still tired
and last but not least is it normal when your on tablets for your urine to be yellow? before i knew what was happing it was clear constantly, im drinking alot still but its still yellow.


thankyou in advance. this is all new to me so im sorry if its something that regularly gets asked
 
Hello and welcome,

You do right to ask questions.

I see from your profile you are on Metformin and Gliclazide.

When you say your blood sugars go up and down all day, by how much do they vary and when you check early evening when it is the lowest level all day, what level is it? What was your diagnostic HbA1c?

It is normal for blood sugars to rise after eating, and it is normal to see the lowest levels just before evening meal. It is also common to rise overnight (this is normally the Dawn Phenomenon/liver dump about which there are many threads on this forum if you use the search box.)

Tiredness is normally associated with high levels.

As to whether you will be on medication all your life you may as well ask how long is a piece of string. Many people on this forum have reduced their BS levels to such an extent that they have been able to reduce and eventually stop medication, but this isn't necessarily possible for everyone depending on whether your pancreas is damaged too much. Reducing BS levels needs commitment and a sustainable, suitable diet.

I don't take either Metformin or Gliclazide so can't comment on urine colour or what to eat before exercise.

I will tag @daisy1 who will provide some excellent information given to all newcomers. Please read it carefully, take note of the role of carbohydrate (not just sugar) and follow the links for further information.
 
well when they first checked at the docs, it was too high for the meter to read, so i got sent to hospital given insulin and tested again, since then it varies usually theres a good 4 or 5 digit difference between morning then lunch.

tea or dinner time is usualy the lowest, around 6pm, it hasnt dropped lower than 8.1 (considering i was 35+ a week ago i think thats good)

i dont know what HbA1c is?

thanks
 
Your body has been used to high BS levels for probably a long time, so now they are reducing a bit it will take time for your body to get used to it, and this could be why you are tired when they drop. This will pass.

Your HbA1c is a blood test used to diagnose you. It is a sort of average of the previous 3 months levels. Have a read about it here

http://www.diabetes.co.uk/what-is-hba1c.html

and have a read about what levels you should be aiming for

http://www.diabetes.co.uk/diabetes_care/blood-sugar-level-ranges.html

Try to test immediately before you eat and again 2 hours after your first bite. These will tell you what is happening, and what that food has done to your levels. The more carbohydrate and sugar in that meal, the higher your levels will be. You can also test as soon as your feet hit the floor in a morning (after hand washing) and again at bedtime. Keep a food diary including portion sizes and record all your levels alongside. Patterns will emerge and some foods will jump out at you with a big "reduce portion size or eliminate". If you drive, you must also test beforehand and regularly during the drive if it is a long one because you are on Gliclazide, a very strong drug that can cause you to have hypos (low blood sugar).

I suggest you contact your surgery and ask what your HbA1c was, and also ask for any blood test print outs. You need to know where you are starting from. This is important.
 
i think i know what it was, the nurse in the hospital mentioned something that sounds familiar to what that HbA1c thing is, she said it should be 40 but mine was 106
 
i think i know what it was, the nurse in the hospital mentioned something that sounds familiar to what that HbA1c thing is, she said it should be 40 but mine was 106

Sounds about right, but you could still do with confirming this and getting a print out. You can see from the link I gave you about HbA1c's that 106 is very high, but you have every chance of getting this down again with a correct diet and with the aid of your medication. (You need both diet and meds, not just meds alone)
 
Your body has been used to high BS levels for probably a long time, so now they are reducing a bit it will take time for your body to get used to it, and this could be why you are tired when they drop. This will pass.

Your HbA1c is a blood test used to diagnose you. It is a sort of average of the previous 3 months levels. Have a read about it here

http://www.diabetes.co.uk/what-is-hba1c.html

and have a read about what levels you should be aiming for

http://www.diabetes.co.uk/diabetes_care/blood-sugar-level-ranges.html

Try to test immediately before you eat and again 2 hours after your first bite. These will tell you what is happening, and what that food has done to your levels. The more carbohydrate and sugar in that meal, the higher your levels will be. You can also test as soon as your feet hit the floor in a morning (after hand washing) and again at bedtime. Keep a food diary including portion sizes and record all your levels alongside. Patterns will emerge and some foods will jump out at you with a big "reduce portion size or eliminate". If you drive, you must also test beforehand and regularly during the drive if it is a long one because you are on Gliclazide, a very strong drug that can cause you to have hypos (low blood sugar).

I suggest you contact your surgery and ask what your HbA1c was, and also ask for any blood test print outs. You need to know where you are starting from. This is important.

Ditto. Great advice from Bluetit. It sounds like you have been supplied with a meter.. this is your new best friend. It's called "Eating to your meter" and you will be able to work out what spikes your readings.
Sorry I can't help on the yellow urine as I'm not medicated. Are you drinking enough water ?
I find a snack of nuts help me when I exercise a lot. My BG can actually go up with exercise and the nuts help stop it... another reason for you to test and see what happens with you.
Welcome to the forum, you're in the best place for advice :)
 
@loulou5590

Hi again Loulou :) As I have been tagged twice, I am repeating this information I posted for you on your other thread so that this one is complete and you will be able to refer to this more easily. Ask questions when you like and someone will help.


BASIC INFORMATION FOR NEWLY DIAGNOSED DIABETICS

Diabetes is the general term to describe people who have blood that is sweeter than normal. A number of different types of diabetes exist.

A diagnosis of diabetes tends to be a big shock for most of us. It’s far from the end of the world though and on this forum you'll find well over 220,000 people who are demonstrating this.

On the forum we have found that with the number of new people being diagnosed with diabetes each day, sometimes the NHS is not being able to give all the advice it would perhaps like to deliver - particularly with regards to people with type 2 diabetes.

The role of carbohydrate

Carbohydrates are a factor in diabetes because they ultimately break down into sugar (glucose) within our blood. We then need enough insulin to either convert the blood sugar into energy for our body, or to store the blood sugar as body fat.

If the amount of carbohydrate we take in is more than our body’s own (or injected) insulin can cope with, then our blood sugar will rise.

The bad news

Research indicates that raised blood sugar levels over a period of years can lead to organ damage, commonly referred to as diabetic complications.

The good news

People on the forum here have shown that there is plenty of opportunity to keep blood sugar levels from going too high. It’s a daily task but it’s within our reach and it’s well worth the effort.

Controlling your carbs

The info below is primarily aimed at people with type 2 diabetes, however, it may also be of benefit for other types of diabetes as well.

There are two approaches to controlling your carbs:

  • Reduce your carbohydrate intake
  • Choose ‘better’ carbohydrates
Reduce your carbohydrates

A large number of people on this forum have chosen to reduce the amount of carbohydrates they eat as they have found this to be an effective way of improving (lowering) their blood sugar levels.

The carbohydrates which tend to have the most pronounced effect on blood sugar levels tend to be starchy carbohydrates such as rice, pasta, bread, potatoes and similar root vegetables, flour based products (pastry, cakes, biscuits, battered food etc) and certain fruits.

Choosing better carbohydrates

The low glycaemic index diet is often favoured by healthcare professionals but some people with diabetes find that low GI does not help their blood sugar enough and may wish to cut out these foods altogether.

Read more on carbohydrates and diabetes.

Over 145,000 people have taken part in the Low Carb Program - a free 10 week structured education course that is helping people lose weight and reduce medication dependency by explaining the science behind carbs, insulin and GI.

Eating what works for you

Different people respond differently to different types of food. What works for one person may not work so well for another. The best way to see which foods are working for you is to test your blood sugar with a glucose meter.

To be able to see what effect a particular type of food or meal has on your blood sugar is to do a test before the meal and then test after the meal. A test 2 hours after the meal gives a good idea of how your body has reacted to the meal.

The blood sugar ranges recommended by NICE are as follows:

Blood glucose ranges for type 2 diabetes
  • Before meals: 4 to 7 mmol/l
  • 2 hours after meals: under 8.5 mmol/l
Blood glucose ranges for type 1 diabetes (adults)
  • Before meals: 4 to 7 mmol/l
  • 2 hours after meals: under 9 mmol/l
Blood glucose ranges for type 1 diabetes (children)
  • Before meals: 4 to 8 mmol/l
  • 2 hours after meals: under 10 mmol/l
However, those that are able to, may wish to keep blood sugar levels below the NICE after meal targets.

Access to blood glucose test strips

The NICE guidelines suggest that people newly diagnosed with type 2 diabetes should be offered:

  • structured education to every person and/or their carer at and around the time of diagnosis, with annual reinforcement and review
  • self-monitoring of plasma glucose to a person newly diagnosed with type 2 diabetes only as an integral part of his or her self-management education

Therefore both structured education and self-monitoring of blood glucose should be offered to people with type 2 diabetes. Read more on getting access to blood glucose testing supplies.

You may also be interested to read questions to ask at a diabetic clinic.

Note: This post has been edited from Sue/Ken's post to include up to date information.
 
Regarding the Urine. I'm on Metformin and Glicazide, and have noticed the same. I've put it down to going much less often and drinking less as I'm not so thirsty. When I do drink a lot of water (to replace beer that I used to drink) it seems to go back to normal.
 
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